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posted by martyb on Friday July 13 2018, @12:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the pass-it-on dept.

On a python developers' mailing list for the core developers, Python Committers, Benevolent Dictator for Life Guido van Rossum has announced that he is stepping down effective immediately and with out appointing a successor.

Now that PEP 572 is done, I don't ever want to have to fight so hard for a
PEP and find that so many people despise my decisions.

I would like to remove myself entirely from the decision process. I'll
still be there for a while as an ordinary core dev, and I'll still be
available to mentor people -- possibly more available. But I'm basically
giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL, and you all will be on
your own.

After all that's eventually going to happen regardless -- there's still
that bus lurking around the corner, and I'm not getting younger... (I'll
spare you the list of medical issues.)

I am not going to appoint a successor.

[...] I'll still be here, but I'm trying to let you all figure something out for
yourselves. I'm tired, and need a very long break.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday July 13 2018, @03:58PM (9 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday July 13 2018, @03:58PM (#706666)

    The curious thing here is that you seem to have reached the conclusion that women who are really good at programming cannot possibly exist. I can tell you from experience that they definitely do, but you may have to leave your mom's basement to find them.

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @05:33PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @05:33PM (#706707)

    I've been told four leaf clovers exist too, but I've only ever seen them in pictures.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @05:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @05:44PM (#706711)

      Yeah, nah, the advice still stands - get out of your mum basement

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @02:09PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @02:09PM (#707100)

      4 leaf clovers are relatively common, there's one in most patches of clover. You just have to have an efficient way of identifying them when the leaflets are in different orientations or overlapping each other.

      5 leaf clovers though are pretty rare, I've only seen a couple of those over the years.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @07:45PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @07:45PM (#707310)

        If the percentage of 4 leaved clovers is between 5-10% of population, that would match about the percentage of (capable) technical women. Or women in garbage collection. Or men in nursing (but I have a feeling there's more there).

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @06:49PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @06:49PM (#706734)

    There might even be a few of those on this board. GP may not even need to risk venturing into the ambient ultraviolet radiation!

    Both you and GP miss the point. The whole thing was about a lack women in the board rooms of tech companies.

    However, if it caused reactionary feminists in the working class to blame their lack of advancement on male working class programmers and vice versa (perhaps GP blames feminism of all kinds for his lack of advancement), that is a welcome bonus.

    I hope that this insanity will find resolution as the working class realizes the fraud of identity politics (including white nationalism) and the need to organize.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @09:31PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @09:31PM (#706784)

      Both you and GP miss the point. The whole thing was about a lack women in the board rooms of tech companies.

      Not at all. It was about GvR leaving, and the coming power struggle. In my opinion the politicians in the Python community will push for a woman to be head, that woman will probably *not* be one of the technical kind, but a politician herself. And the community will then proceed down the same path Mozilla and Gnome have taken.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by jmorris on Saturday July 14 2018, @02:12AM

        by jmorris (4844) on Saturday July 14 2018, @02:12AM (#706881)

        This will happen because the tech nerd types will be evaluating on tech nerd things, make loud pronoucements that they want to "stay above politics", get divided and the SJWs will merely see a free resource up for grabs, solidify behind one "diverse" candidate, hurl charges of misogyny, homophobia or racism as appropriate to ensure little competition and seize the resource. Tech ability or even basic competence mean nothing to politicians, which is what an SJW is. If you think they have a CoC now, wait. And yea any monetary resources will be instantly diverted to Social Justice "Diversity" initiatives but the big "win" will be capture of a large and central resource to use as a weapon to extract more power and resources from other tech organizations with.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @08:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @08:23PM (#706770)

    But you'll also have to brush your teeth, wipe your bottom properly, wash under your armpits and refrain from staring at their breasts.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @09:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 13 2018, @09:50PM (#706790)

    A woman appeared before the Lord and proclaimed,
    "I am a programmer. Let those who would dwell in basements come forth to greet me!"
    And the Lord replied, "It shall not come to pass,"
    "for I have seen that you are a programmer, and you now must join with your brethen in the basements."