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posted by martyb on Tuesday July 01 2014, @01:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the quantum-reality-is-just-classical-reality-in-really-tiny-bits? dept.

For nearly a century, "reality" has been a murky concept. The laws of quantum physics seem to suggest that particles spend much of their time in a ghostly state, lacking even basic properties such as a definite location and instead existing everywhere and nowhere at once. Only when a particle is measured does it suddenly materialize, appearing to pick its position as if by a roll of the dice. This idea that nature is inherently probabilistic -- that particles have no hard properties, only likelihoods, until they are observed -- is directly implied by the standard equations of quantum mechanics. But now a set of surprising experiments with fluids has revived old skepticism about that world-view. The bizarre results are fueling interest in an almost forgotten version of quantum mechanics, one that never gave up the idea of a single, concrete reality.

In a groundbreaking experiment, the Paris researchers used the droplet setup to demonstrate single- and double-slit interference. They discovered that when a droplet bounces toward a pair of openings in a damlike barrier, it passes through only one slit or the other, while the pilot wave passes through both. Repeated trials show that the overlapping wavefronts of the pilot wave steer the droplets to certain places and never to locations in between — an apparent replication of the interference pattern in the quantum double-slit experiment that Feynman described as "impossible ... to explain in any classical way." And just as measuring the trajectories of particles seems to "collapse" their simultaneous realities, disturbing the pilot wave in the bouncing-droplet experiment destroys the interference pattern.

Droplets can also seem to "tunnel" through barriers, orbit each other in stable "bound states," and exhibit properties analogous to quantum spin and electromagnetic attraction. When confined to circular areas called corrals, they form concentric rings analogous to the standing waves generated by electrons in quantum corrals. They even annihilate with subsurface bubbles, an effect reminiscent of the mutual destruction of matter and antimatter particles.

How about it Soylentils. Is there anyone here who groks Quantum Mechanics who would care to explain this in layman's terms? What shortcomings and/or benefits do you see with this theory?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Theophrastus on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:44PM

    by Theophrastus (4044) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:44PM (#62516)

    However I also think the article is factually wrong. Saying that particles "[lack] even basic properties such as a definite location" is incorrect.

    With respects, (for someone demonstrating a profound passion about science reporting), i'd say quantum mechanics, even without a strong dose of then Copenhagen interpretation, does require the location of a particle to be indefinite. That is a the clear understanding that one gains by accepting the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Or are you hereby declaring your rejection of the uncertainty principle?

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  • (Score: 2) by kebes on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:49PM

    by kebes (1505) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:49PM (#62519)
    The part I was taking issue with was claiming that definite locations must necessarily be "basic properties" of reality. I agree that wavefunctions generically describe states that have some spread over space.

    Sorry for being unclear.
    • (Score: 2) by Theophrastus on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:59PM

      by Theophrastus (4044) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:59PM (#62523)

      So you're suggesting that location should not be considered a 'basic property of reality'..? Do you have a substitute set of these properties? Because if you don't then i'd say your interpretation is rather classically Copenhagen. "not that there's anything wrong with that" -- but you did seem to be rejecting the deep probabilistic nature presented there.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by kebes on Tuesday July 01 2014, @04:37PM

        by kebes (1505) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @04:37PM (#62548)
        I'm taking issue with "definite location", not location. The insinuation of the article is that the definite locations of classical physics (particles are zero-volume objects with positions given by real numbers with arbitrarily-high precision) is more real and more valid than the distributed locations of the wavefunctions that appear in QM (which it calls "ghostly" or whatever).

        I'm saying that empirically, when we study reality, we observe that it matches QM and not classical physics. How one interprets that is a matter of philosophical preference, but usually in science we accept that this is just how reality behaves. I.e.: the properties of the wavefunction are the "basic properties" we should care about.
        • (Score: 2) by Theophrastus on Tuesday July 01 2014, @04:47PM

          by Theophrastus (4044) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @04:47PM (#62554)

          This article, like many pop-sci descriptions of QM, is still stuck in 1930's thinking.

          again, i understand you're passionate, but it's the foibles of language which seems more what you're passionate about, so i'll join you insomuch to assert that a lot of "1930's thinking" contains thought that transcends my own (and would that i could get "stuck" there rather than suffer a quantum of uncertainty)

  • (Score: 2) by romanr on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:49PM

    by romanr (102) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @03:49PM (#62520)

    He doesn't say that particles do have definite location, he says that particles have basic properties and that location isn't necessarily basic property, which is matter of opinion i would say.