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posted by chromas on Wednesday August 01 2018, @01:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the delete-this dept.

Activist publishes 11,000 Wikileaks Twitter direct messages

An activist has published 11,000 direct messages on Twitter between the Wikileaks account and a group of its supporters. The direct messages were published by Emma Best on her own website. Her Twitter account states that she is a journalist on the East Coast. Best has been critical of Wikileaks and has advocated for government transparency. Some of the direct messages were previously published, but this is the first time all of the direct messages have been posted.

The messages show that Wikileaks wanted the GOP to defeat Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential elections. "We believe it would be much better for the GOP to win," the Wikileaks account states to a supporter named "Emmy B" in one of the messages from 2015.

Why would they do that?

Clinton: I don't recall joking about droning Julian Assange

Oh.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday August 01 2018, @01:54PM (20 children)

    by ElizabethGreene (6748) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 01 2018, @01:54PM (#715658) Journal

    They tried to discredit Wikileaks by seeding bogus information, and WL caught and exposed it.
    They tried to discredit Wikileaks by making them Russian agents, and WL pointed to a decade of publishing things Russia hated.
    They tried to disappear Julian Assange, and he became a martyr. (A neat trick for someone who is still alive.)
    Now they'll expose the guts of the organization and hope something sticks. Good luck with that; this organization is teflon.

    This smacks of desperation.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:23PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:23PM (#715675) Journal

    Teflon Julian? And, Teflon Bill? Brothers? That explains a lot. No one can hate each other more than brothers, or brother-in-law and sister-in-law.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:43PM (#715690)

    > Now they'll expose the guts of the organization and hope something sticks. Good luck with that; this organization is teflon.

    Dig a little. The discussions posted there by Mchael (Emma) Best are from a chat room about Wikileaks, not from Wikileaks itself. They're not even "DM", which would be private. So the headlines there and on most of the other articles are just plain lies.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by idiot_king on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:50PM (14 children)

    by idiot_king (6587) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:50PM (#715694)

    WL is also majorly responsible for Trump winning. I'm all for toppling corrupt systems but WL needs to be held to its own standard for it to be considered trustworthy.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:53PM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:53PM (#715697) Homepage Journal

      Nah, we just need more people doing the job with different agendas and preferably some with no agenda but the truth.

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by ikanreed on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:05PM (7 children)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:05PM (#715754) Journal

        What's great is that you can say that as if it's true and at the same time a solid quarter of country will just go "alex jones and brietbart are enough for me" and thus stupid conspiracy theories will happily dominate the collective discussion.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday August 01 2018, @05:26PM (2 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday August 01 2018, @05:26PM (#715808) Homepage Journal

          Sounds good to me. Let's start up a government agency to make sure all of the truth is told by every outlet and that it's actually true. Now what would we call this ministry...

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @06:49PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @06:49PM (#715848)

          You don't need to go all the way to Alex Jones to find conspiracy theories, just turn on CNN.

          • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:14PM

            by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:14PM (#715860) Journal

            I mean... you're not gonna see me defend CNN, which exists to maximize advertising dollars within box that is pro-forma journalistic best practices, and no intention to actually follow the spirit of such practices with the aim of informing people. With way too much editorial analysis and not nearly enough critical analysis.

            But I suspect in this case, sans context, that you're conflating describing details of specific criminal conspiracies based on investigations and evidence produced, with the you know, common definition of conspiracy theories I was using: ascribing to unprovable secret malicious intent actions and events with very plausible and reasonable explanations in the public record. Even the pro-forma garbage practices of CNN limit that to only happening in pointless "both sides" panels.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:43PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:43PM (#715875)

          stupid conspiracy theories? you're a brainwashed slave sucking up to the master.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:16PM (#715759)

      It boggles the mind that somebody who seems to support socialism would be unable to see that the reason Trump won was because the DNC ran a profoundly out-of-touch capitalist instead of a progressive.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by schad on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:43PM

      by schad (2398) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:43PM (#715786)

      WL is also majorly responsible for Trump winning.

      Really? Without speaking to the merits of the candidates themselves, I'd put the blame in all these places first:

      1. The people who voted for Trump (naturally). They're all adults; no one is responsible for their votes but them.
      2. The people who were so blinded by the prospect of a woman president that they voted for Clinton despite her many well-documented and extremely obvious deficiencies.
      3. The DNC, for trying to ensure that Clinton would win the primaries despite the fact that, again, she had serious problems as a candidate.
      4. The people who were so disgusted by Trump and Clinton that, rather than voting, they stayed home.
      5. Clinton, for assuming that Democrats would just vote for her no matter what.

      It's at around this point in the blame-list that I'd start talking about Comey, Wikileaks, the Russians, etc. I just don't think they had much of an effect on the election. We all knew what we'd be getting with Trump or Clinton. I don't think any Trump supporters have been terribly surprised by anything that's happened since his election. It's why Stormy Daniels, pussy-grabbing, Miss America peeping, etc. never got much traction. Everyone already knew that Trump was a slimeball. They voted for him anyway. By the same token, everyone already knew what Clinton was: a cutthroat politician who would say or do whatever it took in order to win, and had little or no care for anything beyond her own personal advancement. What did we learn from the DNC emails? That Clinton had done and said whatever it took in order to win. What did we learn from Comey? That Clinton had little or no care for anything beyond her own personal advancement. Nothing shocking there.

      Oh, I'm sure that there were people out there who were naive enough to think that Trump was basically a nice guy who was just misunderstood, and Clinton was secretly a big ol' softie. Well... writing that, I'm not actually sure that there were people that naive. Maybe if you knew literally nothing about either of them?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:18PM (#715863)

      WL is also majorly responsible for Trump winning.

      How can you possibly know this?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:19PM (#715866) Journal

      Hillary was majorly responsible for Trump winning, although FIB Director Comey enjoyed a strong supporting role.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by exaeta on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:30PM (2 children)

    by exaeta (6957) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:30PM (#715772) Homepage Journal

    The organization is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene [wikipedia.org]PTFE, not Teflon. Teflon is a brand name and trademark of Chemours. Only PTFE made by Chemours can be called Teflon.

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    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday August 02 2018, @05:08AM (1 child)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday August 02 2018, @05:08AM (#716079) Homepage Journal

      Hopefully you're speaking tongue-in-cheek. I'll tell you, I love our FABULOUS chemical industry as much as anyone. But the only time I'm giving my tongue a workout like that is in the mouth of a GORGEOUS woman. A 10, somebody on a par with Ivanka. Can we call that teflon? Why not!

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:35PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:35PM (#716240) Journal

        is in the mouth of a GORGEOUS woman

        This is why I can steal your woman any time I like. It's not her mouth that I stick my tongue into!