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posted by chromas on Wednesday August 01 2018, @01:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the delete-this dept.

Activist publishes 11,000 Wikileaks Twitter direct messages

An activist has published 11,000 direct messages on Twitter between the Wikileaks account and a group of its supporters. The direct messages were published by Emma Best on her own website. Her Twitter account states that she is a journalist on the East Coast. Best has been critical of Wikileaks and has advocated for government transparency. Some of the direct messages were previously published, but this is the first time all of the direct messages have been posted.

The messages show that Wikileaks wanted the GOP to defeat Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential elections. "We believe it would be much better for the GOP to win," the Wikileaks account states to a supporter named "Emmy B" in one of the messages from 2015.

Why would they do that?

Clinton: I don't recall joking about droning Julian Assange

Oh.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:56PM (8 children)

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @02:56PM (#715701) Homepage Journal

    From https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinton-trump/ [theintercept.com] sic

    We believe it would be much better for GOP to win. Dems+Media+liberals woudl then form a block to reign in their worst qualities. With Hillary in charge, GOP will be pushing for her worst qualities, dems+media+neoliberals will be mute. She’s a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath.”

            GOP will generate a lot of opposition, including through dumb moves. Hillary will do the same, but co-opt the liberal opposition and the GOP opposition. Hence Hillary has greater freedom to start wars than the GOP, and has the will to do so.

    I am for one very very glad to know that I share my views with great strong people working with wikileaks. Whether the world is turning out to be like what was imagined or not is debatable, and probably only knowable after a decade of this presidency, but Wikileaks wanting to defeat HC is fair and square and understandable.

    The Dem's response though is all you need to know about these so-called-liberals who are claiming that these leaks provide

    examples of homophobia, transphobia, ableism, sexism, racism, antisemitism and other objectionable content and language.

    This is the state of "left-wing" of a country that a decade ago was claiming that there is no left-wing party in USA, there is right and there is far-right.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:02PM (#715703)

    Yes, 2 bad choices without a winning decision, just hedging your bets against the devil you know. Nobody on the left with an iota of education or geopolitical awareness could have supported the Clintons. [wikipedia.org] Trump was a lifelong democrat with traditional left wing views (jobs for the working class) who ran on the republican ticket.

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:20PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:20PM (#715723)

    examples of homophobia, transphobia, ableism, sexism, racism, antisemitism and other objectionable content and language.

    This is the state of "left-wing" of a country that a decade ago was claiming that there is no left-wing party in USA, there is right and there is far-right.

    If you want to put people in camps, you can't do it at a propaganda level by saying "put em in camps" you do it by helping everyone see they're nuts and the most logical path of least resistance for dealing with violent irrational loons is putting them in camps for everyone's safety.

    Meanwhile the "Evil Nazis" look like saints, best economic growth ever, great foreign policy achievements, sane and stable looking compared to the nutjobs violently rioting in the street and the propaganda channels which seem completely disconnected from day to day reality (because... they are)

    The people doing the most to put the left in camps in the future, are on the left... Thanks guys, we really appreciate the help!

    Something similar kinda happened in the 1.0 days back in Germany in the 20s, some really disgusting stuff going on culturally in Weimar Germany led to the general population attitude of, well, better having them in ovens than having them as neighbors...

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:54PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:54PM (#716253) Homepage Journal

      general population attitude of, well, better having them in ovens than having them as neighbors...

      TBH, I would have to go searching for credible citations. But, I was always under the impression that the "general population" of Germany was kept ignorant of the concentration camps. You had to be a member of the party before you might be given any of that information. And, yes, even members of the party who had no "need to know" were probably kept ignorant.

      Things probably changed as the war progressed, and people probably began to guess what was going on.

      But, I'll repeat - I would have to do some serious searching to back that up.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:26PM

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Wednesday August 01 2018, @03:26PM (#715727) Journal

    That's it? Wow.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:14PM (3 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @04:14PM (#715757)

    Dems+Media+liberals woudl then form a block to reign in their worst qualities.

    I think it's worth noting that so far, that does not appear to have worked out that way.

    Part of the reason is that as far as I can tell, the Dem's plan for 2020 is to run somebody not named "Hillary Clinton" (probably Clinton's handpicked successor Kirsten Gillibrand) thoroughly vetted by Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and a few other favored corporations, and repeat their oh-so-successful 2016 strategy of "Hey, we aren't as bad as Trump!" That strategy depends on Trump being as awful as possible as president, which means they have not been doing much of anything to oppose the worst parts of his administration's activities. In short, they're rolling over and playing dead on purpose so they can then turn around and talk about how terrible the other guys are even though they have the power to at least pretend to try to stop them. Evidence for this includes floating Have you seen the other guys? [thehill.com] as their campaign slogan, and this article on Gillibrand [nytimes.com] published 1 day after the Clinton's "Third Way" finished meeting in Columbus OH to plan for making sure the nomination didn't go to anyone who sounded too much like Bernie Sanders.

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    • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:33PM (2 children)

      by shortscreen (2252) on Wednesday August 01 2018, @07:33PM (#715870) Journal

      Dems+Media+liberals woudl then form a block to reign in their worst qualities.

      I think it's worth noting that so far, that does not appear to have worked out that way.

      I'd say the "form a block" part happened. The rest, not so much.

      Despite all the shouting, what has actually been reined in? Maybe the policy on ICE detainees? That's all I can think of.

      • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday August 02 2018, @07:15AM (1 child)

        by cubancigar11 (330) on Thursday August 02 2018, @07:15AM (#716099) Homepage Journal

        Reigning anything would require taking this presidency seriously. But that would require accepting that Hillary lost! May be learn why?

        That would be anathema to the plethora of far-left people who embedded themselves into the system during Obama. They would be recognized as the root cause. They won't let it happen.

        Instead of all that, HIllary didn't lose - RUSSIA did it! We just need to keep making fun of Trump and all its supporters! Double down on the identity politics strategy! They don't want to reign in anything, they have wanted to tear the system down even before all this drama started.

        I think the news of economic betterment we hear today is because of Obama's policies, not Trumps. I also think that Trump has screwed international relations with all the countries all over the world. But Obama did fail in at least one thing - reigning in the far-leftists.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:59PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 02 2018, @02:59PM (#716256) Homepage Journal

          they have wanted to tear the system down even before all this drama started.

          That is kinda how I see the parties.

          The republicans are a bunch of incompetent halfwits, trying to build something. They've got no idea what they are doing, but they try, anyway.

          The dems are busy trying to destroy what the republicans are doing. They may or may not be halfwits, but they are certainly destructive.

          Maybe that helps to explain my contempt for both parties, but the greater contempt for the D's.

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