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posted by martyb on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the GigaGate dept.

Tesla whistleblower's lawyer: My client may have been effectively swatted

A lawyer representing Martin Tripp has released a 10-page police report that he says raises new questions concerning a purported June 20 shooting threat to the Tesla Gigafactory near Reno, Nevada, where the technician worked until he was fired on June 15. The document was first reported by Bloomberg. A month ago, Tesla sued Tripp for alleged trade secrets violations, and he has recently countersued, claiming that he has been defamed.

The report shows that a call expressing vague concern over what Tripp apparently might do was somehow translated to law enforcement as a direct violent attack against the Nevada facility.

"How did it go from the call center to a very serious terrorist threat?" Stuart Meissner, one of Tripp's attorneys, told Ars late Wednesday evening. "I think that's a question that Tesla is going to have to answer in this litigation," Will Fischbach, another one of Tripp's lawyers, told Ars. Meissner, who obtained the report from the Storey County Sheriff's Office under a state public records request, wrote on Twitter on Wednesday that Tripp may have even been set up.

I present the "GigaGate" Police Reports Re the Tesla Giga Factory Terrorist Threat Incident & what may turn out to B the "SWATing" of our client.
We have asked to reopen the investigation as to the source of the reported "threat." Judge for yourself https://t.co/SYKpcQfjcl

Previously: Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC
Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by FatPhil on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:27PM (5 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:27PM (#716487) Homepage
    one sues the other, the other sues back. We're guaranteed a perfectly unbiassed view by which side of this argument?
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:49PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:49PM (#716496)

      No no no... This is one sues the other, the other sends a SWAT team to his home in hopes he'd be shot dead.

      I think we're living through 80s and 90s dystopian scify action films. Only, there's no cool tech or drugs so there's nothing *opian about it.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:55PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:55PM (#716498)

    A dumb one.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:57PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 02 2018, @11:57PM (#716500)

      Why?

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2018, @12:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2018, @12:09AM (#716503)

        By association with Trump.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Friday August 03 2018, @08:08AM (11 children)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Friday August 03 2018, @08:08AM (#716582) Homepage Journal

    I don't find coordinated sabotage by the existing oil and car industry to be very likely as the root cause of the problems at Tesla as Musk wants everyone to think. I just don't see Tesla as nearly any kind of threat to the car companies because they can easily wait for it to either rot from the inside and collapse or if it becomes an actual threat just out produce it and out compete it to a brutal degree because Musk is a nub in this space.

    I don't know what is going on inside that company but I think something is rotten, the cracks are starting to show, and distracting from that is becoming more and more difficult requiring weirder and weirder things to happen. Either that or Musk is having some kind of mental issues. Or both and who knows which one is the leading edge.

    The story makes some pretty conclusive claims that seem like they could be falsified such as the non-existent threat is escalating. It sounds really suspicious but it also sounds like something that would happen when people play telephone inside an organization and does not have had to been intentional.

    My gut says the guy was a jerk on the job and saw something he didn't think was right and was unable to find what he considered to be an appropriate way to get the problem recognized and addressed and didn't let it go. A history of being a jerk led to overreaction inside Tesla as a rumor spread.

    I have to give Tesla the benefit of the doubt for that to work out but I'm not ready to convict them on this yet. I really dislike Tesla for many reasons but I don't think they would do this. They'll kill their drivers with bleeding edge technology unfit for the use case and with unreasonable requirements of supervision leading to blame the victim mentality in the population but I don't think they would SWAT someone.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by G-forze on Friday August 03 2018, @09:51AM (3 children)

      by G-forze (1276) on Friday August 03 2018, @09:51AM (#716602)

      Not necessarily the oil and/or car industry, but short sellers willing to do anything not to lose their huge bet on Tesla failing.

      https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/elon-musk-vs-short-sellers.118431/ [teslamotorsclub.com]

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      • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Friday August 03 2018, @02:55PM

        by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Friday August 03 2018, @02:55PM (#716732) Homepage Journal

        Thanks this is such an interesting read.

        If Solarcity was forced into bankruptcy, they would have defaulted on their solar bonds that Spacex bought previously.

        Dafuq - that doesn't seem right.

        I'm still chewing through this but there are some really compelling arguments in here for short sellers trying to murder Tesla.

        Thank you for the link.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday August 03 2018, @06:09PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday August 03 2018, @06:09PM (#716836) Journal

        Not necessarily the oil and/or car industry, but short sellers willing to do anything not to lose their huge bet on Tesla failing.

        When the last problems at Tesla story came out I did a pretty deep dive into the allegations. While I was digging around I found some pretty compelling evidence that the auto union down there is also making some noise about Tesla in a bid to represent that plant.

        That's not necessarily a bad thing. But, they are an additional motivated and vocal party to this whole mess that you do need to take with a grain of salt sometimes.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2018, @07:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2018, @07:22PM (#716914)

        I have no position on TSLA. But why don't they fund long-term projects with long-term debt, instead of convertible bonds that they have to constantly roll over? Jeez. First they play a confidence game and then they complain when pros move in who try to tear them down.

    • (Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Friday August 03 2018, @02:46PM (3 children)

      by DavePolaschek (6129) on Friday August 03 2018, @02:46PM (#716727) Homepage Journal

      Is it time for Elon to buy his compound in Belize before the assassins start making attempts on his life?

      • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Friday August 03 2018, @05:04PM (2 children)

        by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Friday August 03 2018, @05:04PM (#716800) Homepage Journal

        Are you thinking he should go for a passive or active strategy for dealing with the threats?

        I wonder if McCaffee wrote a book or even a howto on solving problems with people you don't like in Belize.

        • (Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Saturday August 04 2018, @11:30PM (1 child)

          by DavePolaschek (6129) on Saturday August 04 2018, @11:30PM (#717359) Homepage Journal

          Can’t decide, but it’d be a real hoot if he tried to out-weird McAfee.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Knowledge Troll on Sunday August 05 2018, @02:55AM

            by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Sunday August 05 2018, @02:55AM (#717412) Homepage Journal

            The biggest lesson I got from the McCafffee documentary I saw is: if a documentarian contacts you and you respond by saying she will never interview you, she is dumb and you are smarter than her and she'll never win then she'll just pay your ex-gfs to say that you never wanted to ever have sex with them instead you just wanted them to shit in your mouth through a hole in a hammock.

    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Friday August 03 2018, @06:55PM (2 children)

      by darkfeline (1030) on Friday August 03 2018, @06:55PM (#716887) Homepage

      >I don't know what is going on inside that company but I think something is rotten, the cracks are starting to show, and distracting from that is becoming more and more difficult requiring weirder and weirder things to happen.

      Doesn't Tesla use some kind of stack ranking system and fire their "low performing" employees? That right there is all you need to fuck up a company.

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      • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Friday August 03 2018, @08:17PM (1 child)

        by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Friday August 03 2018, @08:17PM (#716955) Homepage Journal

        I'm not really familiar with what you are talking about. Is that something like there is a constant churn of N% so only the cream of the crop stays?

        Yeah I mean that wouldn't destroy morale or anything.

        • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Saturday August 04 2018, @11:05PM

          by darkfeline (1030) on Saturday August 04 2018, @11:05PM (#717347) Homepage

          Stack ranking is where employees rank each other in terms of performance, and generally the lowest N get some kind of special treatment (such as fired). The best part is that performance becomes secondary. Performing well risks all of your coworkers turning on you and ranking you last. Politics becomes the primary concern.

          I recall reading that Tesla had something like that, but I can't find it now.

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