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President Trump Changed His Story on Son's Meeting with Russian Lawyer

posted by martyb on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:08PM   
from the "A-Tale-of-Flodden-Field" dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

5News reports:

President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.

[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."

also at Vox, MSN and Mic

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• Re:Untrustable Re:Untrustable (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:58AM (1 child)

  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:58AM (#718659)

  Says the queen of bad faith.

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• Re:Untrustable (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:35AM

  by khallow (3766) on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:35AM (#718679) Journal

  Says the anonymous libeler. Bad faith has a meaning. According to the Oxford Dictionary, it means:

  Intent to deceive.

  or

  (in existentialist philosophy) refusal to confront facts or choices.

  But here, I think an appropriate meaning of bad faith in a conversation or debate is to argue in a way that doesn't allow an opponent a fair chance to have their say. That can be via fallacies like leading questions or as here, via anonymous, unsupported accusations. We can't know whether you're one of the parties who has posted harassing comments before. We can't know if you even have a justification, valid or not, for your comment. Perhaps you are outright lying and have no instance of bad faith in mind at all.
  
  Thus, there is nothing for me to defend myself against and it becomes an argument made in bad faith.
  
  In comparison, my pointed comment allows ikanreed plenty of opportunity to defend himself. And he knows who this accusation comes from and he can choose to bring it up at a later date or as part of some discussion of greater scope.
  
  There is precedence from the field of law. In most parts of the world, it is illegal to try someone in court without allowing them both the opportunity to defend themselves and the right to see and question the evidence against them.
  
  Thus, I demand that you present the evidence for your accusation or be damned! I will otherwise continue my long held policy of ignoring unsubstantiated accusations.

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