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Computer Programmers get new Tech Ethics Code
The guidelines come from the Association for Computing Machinery
Technological professionals are the first, and last, lines of defense against the misuse of technology. Nobody else understands the systems as well, and nobody else is in a position to protect specific data elements or ensure the connections between one component and another are appropriate, safe and reliable. As the role of computing continues its decades-long expansion in society, computer scientists are central to what happens next.
Personally, I am quite concerned that our Congress has not attached Responsibility with Rights when it comes to software. If someone is going to claim ownership and rights to a piece of code then protect it with electronic lock or obscurity, why aren't they also held 100% responsible if that code causes mayhem?
We just had a story here about the concerns we have about a hemoglobin based meat substitute ... and what we go through to make damn sure the substance is harmless to life before we introduce it into the food chain... and even *that* has to be completely described and its molecular structure demonstrated.
Can you imagine the uproar if Chemists started releasing anything tasty, that people would eat, and call it "food"? And would our Congress grant them the right to withhold information as to what it was? Then hold them harmless for whatever it did to people?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @12:10PM (18 children)
When you learn to code, you are dooming yourself to a life in poverty and death in the gutter.
There are zero jobs for coders. Zero! You will never find work no matter how much code you write. It won't matter how much you study. It won't matter how much you keep your skills up. It won't matter how many degrees or certifications you have. It won't matter how much you blog. It won't matter how much you contribute to open source.
When you learn to code, you will be jobless for life. You will die poor.
There are no jobs for coders. There is no money to be made by coding. None.
(Score: 4, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @12:16PM (11 children)
Damn, does that mean I have to give all this money back and drop all my current contracts?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @12:38PM (4 children)
Do not believe the deceitful lies of frauds who will tell you about the abundance of high paying jobs for coders and the huge piles of money they claim to have gained by coding. It is all lies. Do not be tricked into getting that computer science degree with the promise of lucrative work. Do not be foolish enough to think that multiple computer science degrees will help you any better. It is impossible to get a job in coding. There are no coding jobs. Do not waste your time building open source software with the vain hope that you will someday get noticed and make your big break into paid coding. There is no such thing as paid coding. The pay is a lie.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @03:47PM (2 children)
Well, if you want to win TMB over to your side, it might help to suggest to the reader what career she should choose instead.
Welding, CNC operation, industrial robotics, all good things that anybody thinking about being a programmer should choose instead. Those jobs are more in demand, can't be outsourced, and in my neck of the woods, they (consequently) pay more too!
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday August 13 2018, @05:50PM
I *think* the demand for CNC operator has peaked. Of course, there are still jobs for Cobol programmers.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 14 2018, @01:36PM
Industrial electrician. It's not ever going to make you rich but there will never be too many of them and their jobs will never in a million years be automated away.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday August 13 2018, @04:34PM
Where do you live?
Also, "coding" and "software development" are two different terms. "Coding" is perceived more as grunt work. So yeah, maybe there aren't many jobs for keyboard monkeys; that doesn't mean that you can't get a job developing software.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday August 13 2018, @01:25PM (2 children)
Do you really have any tangible thing of value, or just placation bits in a database?
(Score: 2) by pvanhoof on Monday August 13 2018, @02:53PM (1 child)
Let him whine. Less people starting coding means more contracts for us. We have plenty already. But hey. We can always charge even more Monneh. Also, more new/young people coding doesn't seem to mean more useful technology. Look at the IoT market, the advertising market, most web development that is going on: it's all rubbish. The younger generations of coders are just flooding society with crap.
I think we actually need less people coding. But the fewer people who do being more responsible for what they produce, meanwhile earning more. Kinda like you don't need 60 doctors for 100 villagers in a village. You need a few who know their profession well, are respected because they are competent at their job. And earn good.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday August 14 2018, @03:40AM
(I like where you're going. We can collaborate offsite. I have a plan to keep the noobs busy making predictable crap code, and we'll fix it for big $. I'm not the first to have such a plan, but it'll work I tell ya.)
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 14 2018, @10:14AM (2 children)
Unfortunately, yes. I'm handling the erroneous income redistribution (EIR) for North America. We're seeing EIR all over the place and have implemented the following streamlined procedures to reduce the workload on you. Just send us the check for the amount of income you erroneously thought you had received and we'll make sure it goes to the right people. There's no further need for you to fill out onerous paperwork. We have everything we need in our database to properly correct these problems.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 14 2018, @01:38PM (1 child)
Okey doke. I'll be charging you consultant rates for the paperwork though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 14 2018, @04:39PM
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday August 13 2018, @12:28PM (3 children)
I've been making The Global Computer Industry Index truly "Global" by listing all the locations of a few multinationals.
When I worked at Apple in the mid-90s they had 11,000 employees. Now they have over 100,000.
Surely there are _some_ real job openings.
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @12:45PM (1 child)
Never believe job postings. All job postings are fake. The jobs do not exist. Every job board is a scam to waste your time. Applying for any job in any job board will get you exactly nothing. Do not be foolish enough to think that there must be at least one real job out there. The real job you are looking for is a myth. You will only waste your life trying to find it. There are zero jobs for coders. Coding jobs do not exist.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday August 13 2018, @01:11PM
However, when you try an antidepressant, that particular antidepressant might well not work at all. But _every_ antidepressant, if it _does_ work, takes quite a long time before it makes a different. So for each antidepressant you try, keep taking it for at least two months. If it doesn't work than ask your doctor for a different one.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday August 13 2018, @05:53PM
I don't think the raw numbers tell the real story, though, as I suspect a much larger percentage of the current Apple employees have jobs other than programmer/analyst than was true in 1970. And they seem to have beefed up their legal staff.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Monday August 13 2018, @05:55PM
Ended in the gutter, now we're dead
Ended in the gutter, now my whole team fuckin' dead
Ended in the gutter, now we're dead
Ended in the gutter, now the whole team dead, ligma
Ended in the gutter, now we're dead
Ended in the gutter, now my whole team here, ligma
Ended in the gutter, now we're dead
Ended in the gutter, now the whole team fuckin' dead
I done kept it real from the jump
Livin' in momma's basement, we'd argue every month
Coding, I was tryna get it on my own
Workin' all night, net traffic was my home
And callin' employers, like, "Where you at?
I gave you my CV, you said you'd call back”
Nerdy, I just think it's funny how it goes
Now I'm by the road, in the gutter while it snows, and we—
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @07:22PM
Nice attempt to thin out the competition. Good effort. :D
I will admit that after spending 30 years in IT work, if I had to go back and start college over again today, I sure wouldn't pick computer science. When I got my degree in the late eighties, the internet hadn't spread to the point where it was easy to send most of the coding work anywhere 'round the globe. If I'd known I'd be competing against everyone everywhere, I don't think I'd have done it. I'm good, but I'm not crazy good. I should have been an electrician. Oh well, water under the bridge.