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The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.
The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.
[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday August 16 2018, @03:20PM (11 children)
Given that a lot of their countries are in fact war-torn (mostly between the various drug cartels, but in Nicaragua there's been lots of people rounded up and disappeared recently), I think there's some merit to their claims.
As for your most recent analogy, the ex could say "I can't take you in, but stay on the porch while I make some phone calls and see where you can get some help." Your answer condemns the person to death when they may in fact be trying to escape an abuser who will kill them given the opportunity.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @03:48PM
The problem with this approach is that MOST of the world is a shit hole.
That is not a sustainable policy for letting people in.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @03:57PM (8 children)
Feuds between drug cartels are DOMESTIC PROBLEMS. They can decide to enforce the rule of law, or live in a lawless land. No sympathy here.
You've reminded me of that retarded commercial on the radio. "I was not born a refugee, I was made a refugee!"
Let me define "refugee" for you. Especially in the case of military age males, a refugee is some candy ass who didn't think his own country was worth fighting for, and expects handouts from some other country. Screw them - send them back home to fight or die. Women and children, I can be more lenient with. I kind of expect the male children to grow up, go home, and fight for their country. We don't need Fuckistan's slackers.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:20PM (4 children)
You are so dumb. LEGAL immigrants! You lot have been crowing on and on that as long as they do it legally it is just fine. Now you say fuck em anyways? You piece of bigoted lying shit.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @04:31PM (3 children)
So - they come here legally. They stay for their alloted welcome time. They are politely reminded that their time is up. If they remain, then they are no longer LEGAL. And, BTW - laws can change. You did understand that? Laws might be changed to make some "immigrants" legal, and laws might be changed to make some of them illegal. I'm in favor of sending anchor babies back to the home of origin of their parents, but that's never going to happen. We CAN send their illegal parents packing though. I don't mind separating illegals from legals, even if I don't like the way the legals became legal.
You may also be confused about naturalization. Unless and until you are naturalized, you're not a citizen. You can be sent packing on little more than a whim, if you're not naturalized. AFTER naturalization, then it takes a good deal more than a whim.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @05:51PM (2 children)
I think we need the Native Americans to stake their original claims and evict the invaders. I for one would be happy to live the shitty life of a refugee just to see assholes like yourself have an aneurysm.
Immigration assholes, the ultimate in FYGM.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:10PM
Heh. There would be a pretty serious underpopulation problem if the natives kicked everyone else out. They might want to keep some of us around. The Buzzard has a much better chance than I of being kept, but I have a couple traces of native blood in my veins. My wife has an excellent chance of remaining - maybe she can keep me around as her pet white boy. This is one fence I can straddle all day long!
And, you know something else kinda funny? The only "Indian" that I know of who is 100% progressive is Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren. https://www.wnd.com/2018/05/pocahontas-descendent-wants-elizabeth-warren-to-take-dna-test/ [wnd.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 17 2018, @03:10AM
Fuck that, you gotta stay. I'm not giving up electricity just to have less annoying shits like you around.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:09PM (2 children)
> Women and children, I can be more lenient with. I kind of expect the male children to grow up, go home, and fight for their country.
That's sexist. Women are quite capable.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:11PM
Yes, yes, women are capable. Except when they're not. Then, they are as useless as any other candy ass.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 17 2018, @10:46AM
Depends on the fighting. With modern weapon systems, maybe. If it comes down to hand to hand, women will get pounded into the dirt, and then probably raped.
Men are stronger, faster, and being a warrior is in their DNA. Most women I know who think they are equal fighters have never seen a youngish adult male in real full-on combat mode. It is very fast, fucking scary, and thinking they can match it is laughable.
(The previous is very politically incorrect these days. Doesn't mean it isn't true though.)
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 16 2018, @07:21PM
Refugees are required to seek asylum in the first safe country that they reach. If they continue to travel, they are no longer refugees. Both Mexico and Canada are considered safe countries.
You might object to calling Mexico safe, but normal crime doesn't count. The standard here is something like the country being run by Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or similar... and you being part of the targeted group.