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Trump Administration Expected to Propose Limiting Citizenship for Legal Immigrants

posted by martyb on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the What-would-Emma-Lazarus-say? dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

CBS News reports:

The Trump administration is expected to issue a proposal in coming weeks that would make it harder for legal immigrants to become citizens or get green cards if they have ever used a range of popular public welfare programs, including Obamacare, four sources with knowledge of the plan told NBC News.

The move, which would not need congressional approval, is part of White House senior adviser Stephen Miller's plan to limit the number of migrants who obtain legal status in the U.S. each year.

[...] Though its effects could be far-reaching, the proposal to limit citizenship to immigrants who have not used public assistance does not appear to need congressional approval. As the Clinton administration did in 1999, the Trump administration would be redefining the term "public charge," which first emerged in immigration law in the 1800s in order to shield the U.S. from burdening too many immigrants who could not contribute to society.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:38PM (3 children)

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday August 16 2018, @06:38PM (#722413) Journal

    ...retroactively plug the loopholes in your tax system and make those multi-nationals pay back all the taxes they moved into fiscal paradises.

    Sounds good to me but it'll never get through all the bought-and-paid-for politicians.

    LOL, mate. We have yet chances to make a fine socialist from you.
    Half the way there already: you just admitted that "Other-People's-Money is a good thing™" as long as the people are multinational corporations. Only a bit more and we'll call you "comrade" in our attempt to throw those corrupt politicians out.
    (very large trollish grin)

    As for the rest, I see where you misunderstood. You neglected to consider legal immigrants who do not ever go on welfare at all. Those plus the ones who abuse it make the ones who use it as intended very much an edge case.

    Numbers, mate, numbers or it didn't happen.
    I'll put down these things:

    • you claimed "edge cases", yours be the burden to come with the numbers. It may be good for you too: what if those numbers so something different that you thought they'll be, can you live with the idea you could be wrong, even if only inadvertently wrong? (grin)
    • numbers and quantity vs quality - if you look at scientific articles coming out from the American research, you'll note a very significant proportion of authors with pure-breed American names like: Liu and Zhou and Wang.
      You sure you want to potentially eject any of them from US, now that China overtook America in the scientific papers [nature.com]?
      I can guarantee you the Chinese are very little interested in "social studies" (the party has all the answers in social, no further studies are necessary) and "nutrition/obesity" (not enough HFCS in China, they need corn to feed their stock), most of these papers will be in hard sciences.
    • my position is simple: if anyone played by the rules, it's only fair not to punish them because the rules were bad. I don't need to come with numbers, don't ask me for them
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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 17 2018, @03:18AM (2 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday August 17 2018, @03:18AM (#722674) Homepage Journal

    We have yet chances to make a fine socialist from you.

    Nah, I just figure if I'm going to get fucked, everyone else can damned well get fucked right along with me.

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    • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Friday August 17 2018, @10:25AM (1 child)

      by c0lo (156) on Friday August 17 2018, @10:25AM (#722745) Journal

      Nah, I just figure if I'm going to get fucked, everyone else can damned well get fucked right along with me.

      Huh! You have material to make even a communist out of you!

      (yuuuge grin)

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