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posted by janrinok on Monday August 20 2018, @08:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the puns-means-prizes dept.

Submitted via IRC for Bytram

The so-called "teledildonics patent," owned by a company that many would deem a "patent troll," has just expired. Now US sex toy companies can create the Internet-controlled vibrators, dildos, and whatever else of their dreams with significantly less fear of being sued.

On Friday, US Patent No. 6,368,268 expired after being on file with the United States Patent and Trademark Office for 20 years. The company that had previously held the patent, TZU Technologies, LLC, of Pasadena, California, had filed 10 lawsuits alleging infringement since 2015—one as recently as December 2017. All suits appear to have been settled, with TZU Technologies receiving a payout in exchange for dropping the lawsuit.

This expiration news was met with great fanfare in the sex toy corner of the Internet, even meriting a mention from @RikerGoogling.

"The race will be on to create the most fantastic orgasmic experience possible over an Internet connection," she wrote. "The SexTech market is exploding with demand, meaning that there will be a lot of money in it for businesses who are successful in that effort."

Meanwhile, Daniel Nazer, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, also applauded the occasion.

"It's a classic example of how an overbroad patent can frustrate innovation," he emailed Ars. "To the extent the industry faces other challenges because of a stigma against sex tech or adult products, those will remain. But at least startups in the space won't immediately get sued."

Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/cybersex-toy-industry-heats-up-as-infamous-teledildonics-patent-climaxes/


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  • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Monday August 20 2018, @08:47PM (4 children)

    by BsAtHome (889) on Monday August 20 2018, @08:47PM (#723907)

    With the new era of all connected sex-toys we may finally peek into the neighbor's room, (almost) legally with a search engine and the hopeless security of FIoST devices (Fucking Internet of Shitty Things).

    I'd prefer /this/ particular patent to remain in effect while enforcement dictates non-use of the described invention.
    However, as things are, we will see the sue-balls progress when the devices flood the marked and (ignorant) owners discovers that the neighbor is looking through the peeping hole. The (ignorant) owners will certainly say "Hey! we didn't know it was not secure!". The manufacturer will certainly say "have you read the TOS?". And then, the advertising companies; /they/ are the very happy ones because they now know how to (blackmail you) force you to buy stuff you do not need.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday August 20 2018, @08:53PM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Monday August 20 2018, @08:53PM (#723910) Journal

      Teledildonics couldn't come into its own without VR.

      Getting your security/privacy fucked can be a fetish. Exhibitionism?

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      • (Score: 2) by TheReaperD on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:01AM (2 children)

        by TheReaperD (5556) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:01AM (#723969)

        Are you kidding, I know a few girls that would post online the connection details just so strangers could watch/participate. Doesn't require breaking a single law if they're sharing it of their own will. Of course, this could open up a new avenue of "revenge porn" where ex-boyfriends/girlfriends post the connection data of their ex's sex toys which they're almost certainly going to have to throw away as most will likely have such crap security things as no or hard-coded passwords, non changeable IPs, etc.

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        • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:11AM (1 child)

          by Snotnose (1623) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:11AM (#723975)

          Are you kidding, I know a few girls that would post online the connection details

          Don't you mean you wish you knew a few girls......

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          • (Score: 2) by TheReaperD on Tuesday August 21 2018, @11:31PM

            by TheReaperD (5556) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @11:31PM (#724457)

            In my particular case, happily no. I was no longer one of those geeks that couldn't get a woman, no matter how desperate I was anymore past age 22. Before then, that's another story. You can watch Revenge of the Nerds for my teenage years to that point.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Monday August 20 2018, @08:52PM (6 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 20 2018, @08:52PM (#723909) Journal

    Thousands of new IoT things, made by companies having little to no experience with IT? Sounds like a black-hat hacker's wet dream!

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Monday August 20 2018, @09:19PM

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 20 2018, @09:19PM (#723920) Journal

      DDOS cuming
      (Dedicated Denial Of Sex)

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    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday August 20 2018, @09:22PM (4 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) on Monday August 20 2018, @09:22PM (#723922) Journal

      I'm sorry but, in what world are the kinds of insular losers who can't get a date and resort to "teledildonics" not super fucking versed in IT?

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Monday August 20 2018, @09:53PM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Monday August 20 2018, @09:53PM (#723934) Journal

        A world run by script kiddies, like, so duh.

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        • (Score: 4, Touché) by ikanreed on Monday August 20 2018, @09:59PM

          by ikanreed (3164) on Monday August 20 2018, @09:59PM (#723938) Journal

          The world is run by script kiddies.

          Only the script is a nightly batch that moves money bits around a bank.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by KiloByte on Monday August 20 2018, @10:10PM (1 child)

        by KiloByte (375) on Monday August 20 2018, @10:10PM (#723946)

        I'm sorry but, in what world are the kinds of insular losers who can't get a date and resort to "teledildonics" not super fucking versed in IT?

        This "teledildonics" can be used in two setups:
        • between two humans (a remote lover)
        • with an AI by an idiot who doesn't know the basics about privacy

        Your stereotypical IT person doesn't belong to the first group, and has enough clue to run any such software locally. Although, it's pretty hard to come up with a remotely operable sex toy fit for males (at least within current mainstream technology).

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @06:41PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @06:41PM (#724305)

          Hooking a fleshlight up to a piston isn't exactly rocket surgery, and it's been done already, by a good few companies. Never mind the oscillating "guybrators" that have been popping up over the past few years and potentials to integrate them with external controls. And it's probably not worth mentioning the other body parts men may wish to stimulate...

          The real question is how many of these will be glorified Ohmibod/Lovense clones for guys, and how many will involve two way motion sensing to approximate actual intercourse (vaginal or otherwise). And then it will come to the market to decide whether the latter is actually all that much more worthwhile than the former...it's entirely possible that people will decide that humping an input device isn't as much of a turn on as turning up dials to get their partner hot and bothered, either with or without reciprocity on their end.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday August 20 2018, @09:09PM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Monday August 20 2018, @09:09PM (#723913) Journal

    Alexa, strip down and play our mixtape*.

    *Despacito [youtube.com] on repeat
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20 2018, @09:29PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20 2018, @09:29PM (#723925)

    It's heating up? The competitors had better be careful to not get burned! But if so it's the one time you'll want full-thickness and not partial-thickness. I guess the new players will just have to come as they are.

    • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Monday August 20 2018, @10:01PM

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 20 2018, @10:01PM (#723940) Journal

      "The competitors had better be careful to not get burned!"

      And the customers had better be careful not to get stiffed!

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    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday August 20 2018, @10:03PM (1 child)

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday August 20 2018, @10:03PM (#723942) Journal
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:30AM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:30AM (#723985) Journal

        But... does it have blockchain?
        Otherwise it's not going to produce excitement in people with money.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Monday August 20 2018, @10:06PM (3 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 20 2018, @10:06PM (#723943) Journal

    I've always found it amusing that the sex industry is one of the most innovative and inventive users of tech. To hear the prudes tell it, nothing good can come of such hedonism. Certainly not anything that requires thinking and brains! It's like they think sex rots your brain even more than drugs.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday August 20 2018, @11:11PM (2 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday August 20 2018, @11:11PM (#723956) Journal

      And yet the battery tech to power said toys has not advanced...

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:32AM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:32AM (#723986) Journal

        Planned obsolescence, no industry is immune.

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:34AM

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:34AM (#723989) Journal

        It has advanced [archive.is] over time. Just not as much as we'd like.

        Eventually, one of the many technologies that gets hyped up will actually pan out and replace Li-Ion. Then you can look forward to drones that can spy on you 2-5x longer and other marvels.

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  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday August 20 2018, @10:16PM (2 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday August 20 2018, @10:16PM (#723948) Homepage Journal

    Patents are very easy. You want to use a patent, you make a deal. You pay the license. Or, buy the patent. If you're quick, FIRST MOVER ADVANTAGE. They waited 20 years, too bad! #dayswithoutsex [twitter.com]

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20 2018, @11:13PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20 2018, @11:13PM (#723958)

      Well they let a dildo like you on Twitter.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:36AM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:36AM (#723991) Journal

        The frigid alternative would have been worse for the industry, the femdom fetishists aren't a large enough a segment market.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Monday August 20 2018, @11:15PM (5 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday August 20 2018, @11:15PM (#723961) Journal

    Toys can supplement sex, but even sex bots and teledildonics are no substitute for the real thing. If people veer too much into that realm social skills will atrophy and make it even harder to court; the result will be a yawning chasm of loneliness that will cause other social maladies.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:26AM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:26AM (#723982) Journal

      Who can say that the sex bot of tomorrow (decades from now) won't be better than the real thing? Soft and wet as needed, complete "control" and "adjustments" on the order of milliseconds, etc.

      Oh, you meant relationships. We can program that in! With a little strong AI, you can just switch it anywhere from "slave" mode to "reluctantly tolerating your presence and on the verge of divorcing you" mode*. Call it social sexbot training, promote it as actually helping to stop the decline of social skills.

      *Yes, the scale goes past reluctance and into rape territory.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @08:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @08:47AM (#724083)

      The sky is falling! Is that it?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @11:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @11:28AM (#724120)

      Exactly.
      I always start romantic courting with in-person dildoing, otherwise the potential partner will think I lack social skills and not be interested in a second date.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @06:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 21 2018, @06:44PM (#724308)

      It'll cause other social maladies, but that'll only be temporary. You need to produce more children in order to have a society to have said maladies.

      Basically, the world is going to turn into Japan.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by black6host on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:14AM

    by black6host (3827) on Tuesday August 21 2018, @12:14AM (#723978) Journal

    An article at The Reg https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/17/key_teledildonics_patent_gets_lifted/ [theregister.co.uk] mentions, and provides a link to a site called MetaFetish (probably NSFW which is why I didn't link direct), that brings up the idea that provisional patents related to the one that has expired will still impose licensing burdens and prevent or hinder newcomers to the US market.

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