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My daughter just went to a Drag(on) party (sp???):
literally a pre-wedding party for two guys (and there was a stage drag theater contest).
My questions (being an old guy trying to fit into a new world)
1. Is it husband and wife or husband and husband (wife and wife for lesbians)?
2. Why do people do drag? and why don't they dress that way all the time if they like doing it so much?
3. I knew a 'flaming homo' in Toronto (did not know him well enough to ask questions like this): why do some guys act straight and some so feminine to outright flaming in yo' face?
Will probably remember some other questions later... does anyone have a primer?
Honestly asking.... this is all new to the guy who grew up (small town) saying "Ha...you're a homo!" without really knowing what that meant (when told about a 'circle jerk' i wondered why a bunch of guys would want to do that while thinking about women, lol).
Let the flaming begin!
**A side thought:
In the future there WILL be sex bots:
.....there will also be 'child sex bots' (and will/can child sex bots be made illegal?)... thinking about this is kind of disturbing, but i know it IS coming, sooner or later.
Will something like that take care of a pedo's needs or lead to something worse?
If you had a fully functioning sex-bot that looks/feels real with wonderful AI, would you consider never having a relationship (such as marriage) again or just stick with sex-bot?
If my wife died and i had a bot/AI that was acceptable, i might just stick with it, methinks.
Damn, my mind is going tonight!
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 27 2018, @01:56AM (3 children)
1. Husband and husband if there's two identifying men. Liking men doesn't make someone a woman.
2. People like to have fun. Dressing in drag is fun for some people and it draws attention (which many enjoy).
As for why they don't always do it, dressing for fun and special occasions is a very different thing than doing it all the time.
3. It isn't necessarily an act. Some men are more feminine and some are more masculine. There is some conformity within certain group identities (because people like to fit in).
Anecdote: I knew a gay guy who was on the very masculine side that had a lot of trouble in the US since he was only into very masculine men. He was ex-Israeli military and was only used to gay men that "acted" straight and was incredibly turned-off by feminine men.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Monday August 27 2018, @02:07AM (2 children)
"1. Husband and husband if there's two identifying men. Liking men doesn't make someone a woman."
But what gets me is (after watching Ru Paul's drag race) they call each other 'she', why not wife?
I can understand husband/husband more because...GUYS, but the 'oddities' like the 'she' above: throws a wrench in my understanding, but I just take it as 'DUDE!' for the 'feminine' guys?
Old dog, new tricks...still learning, lol.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Monday August 27 2018, @02:21AM
The problem is that as my subject said, "it's all subjective and relative". There's no set guidelines on how to act, what pronouns to use, etc. And you're looking at a media representation, i.e. a heavily edited "reality" competition TV show. Finally, "she" is being thrown around in the context of drag.
A Google search for "how to refer to drag" gave me this:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-bartolomei/drag-and-pronouns_b_3384512.html [huffingtonpost.com]
^ I couldn't even tell you if the above is accurate, and it doesn't entirely address your question.
Probably the easiest solution is to just use "partner" instead of husband or wife. Or use your best judgment and pick up on the cues you hear.
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 27 2018, @11:35AM
When someone is in drag, they assume a stage persona (which would be a "she"). If someone is wearing a wedding dress, they are playing the role of the bride whether or not they identify as female; however, wearing a suit doesn't mean husband (e.g. wearing pants is neutral vs. wearing a dress is feminine).
Don't read too much into pronouns, just follow the lead of others or use the person's name. Some deliberately use feminine pronouns to counter balance the typical male pronoun default, so "she" might be gender-neutral.