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on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:00AM
from the I'm-not-directly-spying-on-you dept.
from the I'm-not-directly-spying-on-you dept.
Angry Jesus writes:
"German language magazine 'Bild am Sonntag' reports that, in response to Obama's recent order to stop spying on Angela Merkel and other heads of 'friendly' states, the NSA has instead ramped up spying on everybody Merkel communicates with. Cory Doctorow points out that this action demonstrates that the NSA is out of control and deliberately disobeying a presidential order with a level of duplicity worthy of a four year-old."
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:22AM
The first determination of the deception of a four year old is that nobody believes it. Who broke the cookie jar? "Nobody." Yeah, like that is going to fly. NSA, the only government agent that listens to you, and your friends.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by jt on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:22AM
'Plausible deniability' doesn't work when one's reputation is dirt, and only negative interpretations of actions are plausible.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:01AM
Well, with due deference to the all knowing Cory Doctorow, who opines:
Really Cory? You still believe in Obama? After all this time?
The NSA is doing exactly as he told them they could do, which is exactly what they suggested that he should tell them to do. None of this is being done behind his back. He is All In. He drank the koolaid 10 minutes after he was elected.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by metamonkey on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:17PM
What makes you think Obama tells the NSA what to do? I would venture the situation is more likely reversed.
Okay 3, 2, 1, let's jam.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by dilbert on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:54PM
I'm sorry, but no. Post Snowden, the president is the one in this equation that believes he still has some secrets he'd rather the NSA not disclose. Thus it will be the NSA telling him what to do, and not the other way around.
(Score: 1) by metamonkey on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:58PM
I think you misread my post. I said the situation was reversed...Obama doesn't tell the NSA what to do, the NSA tells Obama what to do.
Okay 3, 2, 1, let's jam.
(Score: 1) by dilbert on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:27PM
(Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:46PM
Pretty sure I implied that in my post.
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(Score: 1) by metallurge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:37PM
Actually, he drank the koolaid in approximately July, 2008 [go.com], when he reversed himself on FISA / Telecom Immunity. This was before he was elected. This is what cost him my vote subsequently.
(Score: 1) by Ezber Bozmak on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:02PM
Really Cory? You still believe in Obama? After all this time
To be fair, if you RTFA, Doctrow actually wrote:
"This is assuming that Obama himself didn't wink-nudge them and say, "Actually, go ahead and keep spying on her but not personally, OK?""
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by gottabeme on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:23PM
> He drank the koolaid 10 minutes after he was elected.
After? I mean, hey, I'm glad you've finally seen the light, but come on: you honestly think the "hope and change" was real? He's one of the least-qualified presidents we've had. He was made president by people who wanted him to be. They searched for someone who could sell it to the average American, and they found Obama. Their machine did the rest. The American People are the ones who really drank the koolaid. And most of them still can't admit to themselves that they fell for it.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by frojack on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:56PM
I Never believed a single word Obama ever said, I've never voted for him.
Even those people desperate for a black president knew he was an incompetent
self aggrandizing liar.
And no, I didn't get to keep my Doctor.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.