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posted by chromas on Wednesday September 19 2018, @02:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the is-anyone-using-it? dept.

Molly de Blanc writes at that it has been one year since the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) sold out. It was then they, including Tim Berners-Lee himself, decided to incorporate Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) into web standards signalling an end to the open Web. She covers how it happened, what has transpired during the last year in regards to EME, and what steps can be taken.

Digital Restrictions Management exists all over the world in all sorts of technologies. In addition to media files, like music and film, we can find DRM on the Web and enshrined in Web standards. As a Web standard, its use is recommended by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), making it not only easier, but expected for all media files on the Web to be locked down with DRM.

It's been a year since the the W3C voted to bring Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) into Web standards. They claimed to want to "lead the Web to its full potential," but in a secret vote, members of the W3C, with the blessing of Web creator Tim Berners-Lee, agreed to put "the copyright industry in control" of media access. The enshrinement of EME as an official recommendation is not how we envision the "full potential" of the Web at the Free Software Foundation (FSF).


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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:30PM (9 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:30PM (#737069) Journal

    well, the trick of it is: what are you trying to save?

    The background of current element? The background of an ancestor? The content of ::before selector? The content of an img tag(this one should still be easy)?

    Your browser assumes most of that is extraneous and devs exploit that fact to make hard to save web pages. Maybe a "choose media from page" browser extension could be a useful thing to write.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by bart9h on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:54PM

    by bart9h (767) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:54PM (#737076)

    For video, youtube-dl, despite the name, can download from over a thousand different sites [github.io].

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Arik on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:57PM (7 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:57PM (#737079) Journal
    There are several such extensions but none seem to work very well.

    The browsers have been pushing more and more of their job back on the websites for years, so this is the result. The big companies (and many others) craft malicious webpages and the browsers bend over backwards to assist them. By the time we get to someone that gives a fig for the user, you're talking about an extension developer, who can only use the facilities provided by the browser (and knows that what the brower gives, it can take away.)

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Wednesday September 19 2018, @04:00PM (1 child)

      by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @04:00PM (#737080) Journal

      And really, the only solution is the death of google, facebook, amazon, twitter, reddit, and every other dungheap that just "wraps" the internet's core design in a proprietary, walled-garden cocoon.

      And since that's not gonna happen, the misery will continue forever.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 22 2018, @01:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 22 2018, @01:34AM (#738439)

        WTF are you complaining about in terms of twitter and reddit? Both have APIs. Reddit doesn't require an account to read for even its NSFW sections. Both have TBs worth of archives online anyone can download and play around with. They are two of the most open sites online. No one is hosting archives of SoylentNews articles. Here, go download all of Reddit nicely packaged by month: https://files.pushshift.io/reddit/ [pushshift.io] How is that a walled garden?

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Wednesday September 19 2018, @05:22PM

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @05:22PM (#737123) Journal

      I've had good results with Video Download Helper plugin in Firefox. Even works with the latest (post 56) versions.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @02:44AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @02:44AM (#737357)

      There are several such extensions but none seem to work very well.

      Something tells me you've never used youtube-dl much, or at all? youtube-dl is the king when it comes to saving multimedia from the web. Just keep it up to date, which is simple.

      I don't disagree about browsers.

      JavaScript should just die already. YouTube requires it. Now Twitter seems to, too, giving you two bullshit error messages if you don't enable it.

      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday September 20 2018, @03:37AM (1 child)

        by Arik (4543) on Thursday September 20 2018, @03:37AM (#737374) Journal
        I've tried that extension several times in the past, but not recently as I've no interest in coming within smelling distance of the newer versions of FF. As I recall, yes, it worked fairly well *on youtube* as long as you kept it up to date, and didn't mind waiting for an update now and then.

        However I was looking for something more generic.

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        • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @04:48AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @04:48AM (#737388)

          I've tried that extension several times in the past, but not recently as I've no interest in coming within smelling distance of the newer versions of FF.

          It's not an extension. It is not an addon. It has nothing to do with Firefox.

          https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ [github.io]

          It is powerful. It can be used with mpv, smplayer, and so on. It's cross platform, it's open source.

          AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIREFOX.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @09:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 20 2018, @09:14AM (#737416)

      A local News site was running like a dog. Open umatrix. Over 99 cookies being set. More than 50 scripts. Just by the news site without counting third party. Block scripts and xhr and cookies. Page loads in second.