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After weeks of testing, CentOS 7 has been released. For a list of RELEASE NOTES, please see the Wiki.
CentOS falls in line with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, released just 26 days ago. It is also worth noting that an ALPHA release of Scientific Linux 7.0 is also available for testing.
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(Score: 2) by evilviper on Wednesday July 09 2014, @04:07AM
File systems are still needed on optical media, solid state, etc. They don't cease to matter, just because you aren't using "magnetic media".
Optical discs are pretty uniform, with the UDF file system, but with all those SD Cards, USB thumb drives, removable hard drives, etc., it's a sad, sorry mish-mash of FAT32, EXFAT, NTFS, etc. An open source file system could have dominated, if there was a focused effort on one, instead of a plethora of competing almost-the-same file systems.
Wake up... It has worked with the BSD forever, not to mention every other operating system out there. Nowhere else but on Linux is it such a mess, with Linus allowing the kitchen-sink approach to development, and accepting anything and everything. And RedHat and other distros just jumping from one to another on a whim.
Hydrogen cyanide is a delicious and necessary part of the human diet.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday July 09 2014, @01:27PM
"They don't cease to matter, just because you aren't using "magnetic media"."
Sure they do, unless you're solely into experimenting or intentionally trying to create something that won't work on any appliance out there.
Just because you can put ZFS on a sdcard doesn't mean its a wise idea and almost no machines in the universe will ever be able to use it, no cameras, no cellphones, most computers... It is exactly like your UDF/iso9660 example for optical, I can burn a dvd disk with, say, btrfs, but that would be insane because I don't own a single DVD player appliance or any machine with a BIOS that use it in any way.
With a bit of extra work I could do something apparently useless that might none the less be highly useful in a way I don't yet understand to someone, is not an excuse to force the guy who does find it useful to stop, because its his fault that I'm not as creative as he is, especially if doing nothing to stop the guy wouldn't hurt anyone at all.
"Nowhere else but on Linux is it such a mess"
The fundamental problem is no one being able to find this "mess" other than located in the opinion of non linux devs, which by definition don't matter much to the linux community.
If it was a good idea, being open source, the linux community would have copied that good idea... so either its too hard to copy (LOL) or isn't a good idea (fairly likely) or is patented (LOL)
There is some toxicity in the argument such that traditionally for decades there has been a lot of PR along the lines of "you can't have linux on the desktop without (insert utter nonsequitor)" which has been said about such a wide variety of ridiculous things that any "appeal to the desktop" is automatically laughed at because the previous examples have all been jokes, which could be unfair although it usually isn't. Usually if there is no good reason for a bad idea, for lack of any better argument the "desktop" gets rolled out as a blunt weapon to try to bash a pet project somewhere it doesn't belong. We're getting there now with "integration" and "tablet" taking the blame for ideas which are often awful. I don't think this disclaimer paragraph applies in any way to systemd, or forced removal of harmless FS that someone doesn't like, however.
(Score: 2) by evilviper on Friday July 11 2014, @07:54AM
If you used Ext2, ANY computer could read it, including Android phones, some embedded devices, and more. If Linux developers hadn't gone nuts and spread their file system development efforts too thin, then something like Ext2/3 likely would have gotten popular with devices, before ExFat came along, and before Microsoft was licensing NTFS. All your devices might support Ext2 today, for just a small change in leadership.
And if Linux had used UFS/FFS instead of developing Ext2 in the early days, I KNOW UFS would have taken over the world by now. A much better file system, and one with legacy support in all Unix-like OSes the world over, from Irix to AIX to Solaris, without any of the limitations of Ext2/3.
And don't scoff at ZFS. It's still early days, and could very well take over the world, in time.
iso9660 is only useful on MS-DOS, having 8.3 file names, and many other strict limits. Instead, you have to master CDs with a mess of hybrid file systems, and extensions to work on more than one OS...
Rock Ridge, Joilet, HFS, etc., ALL are necessary on some systems, but don't work on others. iso9660 is a crappy mess, and you're holding it up as an example to follow? Insane.
That's just circular logic. It implies everyone, everywhere is technocratic, has no other motivations, and are all perfect at judging such things. Many things done in Linux have been pointless dead-ends. And there's no question that Linux has lagged behind the BSDs in hardware support and performance at various times, so your claims fall completely flat.
I will ignore the rest of your silly rant.
Hydrogen cyanide is a delicious and necessary part of the human diet.