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posted by chromas on Wednesday October 03 2018, @10:49PM   Printer-friendly

After more speculation about cause of ISS leak, NASA issues another statement

A thorough Russian investigation of a leak that occurred in August in the orbital module of a Russian Soyuz spacecraft, which is attached to the International Space Station, will not be completed until November. But this week, the head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos reignited controversy about the leak with some comments during a television appearance.

A preliminary investigation, according to Russia's chief spaceflight official, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, "concluded that a manufacturing defect had been ruled out which is important to establish the truth." So if it wasn't a manufacturing defect, then what was it? As Rogozin did not say, this re-fueled speculation in some media reports that the hole was intentionally drilled by NASA astronauts in space. This theory is nonsensical, but it appears to play well to Russian audiences.

After these latest comments and with an imminent Soyuz spacecraft launch on October 11 that will carry NASA astronaut Nick Hague to the International Space Station, the US space agency felt the need to put out a new statement on Wednesday. It reads:

On Aug. 29, 2018 a small hole was discovered on the International Space Station. This resulted in a pressure leak. The hole has been identified and fixed by space station crew.

Russian media recently reported that General Director Rogozin said the hole was not a manufacturing defect. Ruling out a manufacturing defect indicates that this is an isolated issue which does not categorically affect future production.

This conclusion does not necessarily mean the hole was created intentionally or with mal-intent. NASA and Roscosmos are both investigating the incident to determine the cause. The International Space Station Program is tentatively planning a spacewalk in November to gather more information.

On October 11, American Astronaut Nick Hague and Russian Cosmonaut Alexey Ovchinin will launch to the International Space Station on a Russian Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Administrator Bridenstine is scheduled to attend the launch and plans to meet with Mr. Rogozin. This will be their first in-person meeting. They had a telephone call on September 12 during which they discussed the International Space Station leak.

Previously: Russian Space Chief Vows to Find "Full Name" of Technician Who Caused ISS Leak
NASA and Roscosmos Release Joint Statement on ISS Leak Amid Rumors


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03 2018, @10:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03 2018, @10:56PM (#743729)

    The leak is slow enough to be safe, but fast enough to vent a fart. One of the Russians has a digestion issue. He doesn't want to piss off his coworkers. He figured that he could save farts in condoms, then take them over to the hole for disposal. Unfortunately for him, the hole was not quite small enough to hide from pressure monitoring and leak detectors.

  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:10PM (1 child)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:10PM (#743739) Journal

    The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! Leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are. Find the leakers. They will be caught!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:45PM (#743759)

      DeathMonkey finds evidence of collusion at last.

  • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:26PM

    by Snotnose (1623) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 03 2018, @11:26PM (#743751)

    He wasn't close to a bathroom, so he effectively pissed behind a barn.

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  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:30AM (5 children)

    by captain normal (2205) on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:30AM (#743816)

    What use could such a tool be in an environment where the fillings would be floating around messing up the air recycling systems and all the electrical systems on board?

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    The Musk/Trump interview appears to have been hacked, but not a DDOS hack...more like A Distributed Denial of Reality.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:43AM (#743825)

      You can use a vacuum hose near the drill to catch most of the debris. Perhaps they even have a special tool where a suction pipe surrounds the drill bit.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:43AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:43AM (#743826) Homepage Journal

      NASA thinks of everything: there is a pair of fingernail clippers on board.

      But a YouTube I saw once had the astronaut who demonstrated the clippers pointing out that it was important to clip one's fingernails right next to an air intake.

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    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:21PM (2 children)

      by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:21PM (#744125)

      They make drills with magnetic drill bits/heads, and I'm sure they have containers around for storing the others.

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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:24PM (1 child)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:24PM (#744128)

        Oh, the filings. Disregard

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @05:22PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @05:22PM (#744194)

          disregard that, I suck cocks

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:35AM (#743819)

    ofc the secret and tiny no-reaction-mass test device was only a manoverable sucess because of this hole...

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:42AM (2 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:42AM (#743823) Homepage Journal

    The ISS always keeps enough reentry capsules around so that the entire crew can escape if there is an emergency.

    But the placement of that hole, or the damage it did to the capsule's structure may have rendered that capsule unsuitable for reentry. If so, they're going to have to launch an extra one to replace it.

    That would make that a very very expensive hole.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mhajicek on Thursday October 04 2018, @04:52AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Thursday October 04 2018, @04:52AM (#743864)

      What I want to know is if there's a protrusion (bolt end, threaded rod?) of matching dimension on any piece of equipment that ever passed through that hatch.

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      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by sjames on Thursday October 04 2018, @06:14AM

      by sjames (2882) on Thursday October 04 2018, @06:14AM (#743884) Journal

      It's still a perfectly good lifeboat. The hole is in the habitation module (aka orbital module) which is jettisoned just before reentry and burns up in the atmosphere (by design). The re-entry module below it is the one that needs to be in good condition for a safe return.

  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:19PM (6 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday October 04 2018, @03:19PM (#744122)

    So if it wasn't a manufacturing defect, then what was it? As Rogozin did not say, this re-fueled speculation in some media reports that the hole was intentionally drilled by NASA astronauts in space. This theory is nonsensical, but it appears to play well to Russian audiences.

    And here I thought *we* were the only ones making fools of ourselves politically on a daily basis...

    (for values of "we" being "that orange bastard")

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    • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Thursday October 04 2018, @07:57PM (5 children)

      by loonycyborg (6905) on Thursday October 04 2018, @07:57PM (#744286)

      Who exactly made fools of themselves in this case? Neither NASA nor Roscosmos did because neither of them accused NASA astronauts of drilling holes. Once again that was the media in their pursuit of silly dramas.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 04 2018, @08:37PM (4 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday October 04 2018, @08:37PM (#744303)

        Whichever Russians came up with this bullcrap "obviously it must've been an American astronaut sabotaging the ISS, Mother Russia is blameless, no you can't see the evidence for this, shut up and go away." But we've already established that apparently no Russians ever call Putin on his blatant grandstanding and twisting of the truth because that would mean that something might actually be their fault.

        Obviously there are a lot of people who think the U.S. can do no wrong either, but it's just funny to see the logical contortions their citizens seem to be willing to buy for why Russia/Putin is always right.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 05 2018, @12:02AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 05 2018, @12:02AM (#744395)

          My bet is on someone who is underpaid. Screwed something up. Covered it up. No QA to oversee it and poor manufacturing hygiene. It ended up in space. The end.

        • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Friday October 05 2018, @08:27AM (2 children)

          by loonycyborg (6905) on Friday October 05 2018, @08:27AM (#744553)

          Such approach to newsmaking was imported directly from the West, yet another proof that Russians shouldn't mindlessly borrow everything from there. Don't mix in "Putin/Russia always right" here, that's just dumb red herring. It's all about getting the catchiest headline.

          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday October 05 2018, @02:53PM (1 child)

            by tangomargarine (667) on Friday October 05 2018, @02:53PM (#744635)

            Such approach to newsmaking was imported directly from the West,

            Ayep. Winning? :P

            yet another proof that Russians shouldn't mindlessly borrow everything from there.

            I dunno, it seems to be working quite well for Pooty. Whatever minimal competition he has from other politicians, he can just poison them and tell the FSB to bury the investigation. As it turns out, being a former secret police chief is an excellent way to bootstrap yourself into power and keep it. Another reason why secret police suck.

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            • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday October 05 2018, @02:57PM

              by tangomargarine (667) on Friday October 05 2018, @02:57PM (#744636)

              just poison them

              Or am I thinking of the Ukrainian guys. In any case, I remember him vanishing/arresting at least one opposition leader, presumably quite a few more.

              "Russia needs a tsar"

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by MyOpinion on Friday October 05 2018, @02:17AM

    by MyOpinion (6561) on Friday October 05 2018, @02:17AM (#744461) Homepage Journal

    ... would you mind showing me a time lapse video of the construction of "SkyLab"?

    Also the "ISS", where is a time lapse video for that? There should be many for this pinnacle of human engineering, correct? Try as I might, found nothing. Or was there billions spent but not on videos? Why the secrecy on a civilian station?

    A full, uninterrupted 24/7/365 4K should also exist, but it does not; how come the signal is lost, with 13,000 to 17,000 satellites "up there" to bounce it off of? And the "ISS tour" is also full of video cuts, why is that?

    I am guessing the freshly-installed "multiplexor/demultiplexor" is not multiplexing/demultiplexing good enough, what would you say? Is there an upcoming "space walk" to fix it (and grab a 360 panorama while at it to finally show us where we live)?

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