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posted by LaminatorX on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the Take-my-data-and-go-home dept.
c0lo writes: "Reuters reports

(Reuters) Brazil and the European Union agreed on Monday to lay an undersea communications cable from Lisbon to Fortaleza to reduce Brazil's reliance on the United States after Washington spied on Brasilia.

At a summit in Brussels, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff said the $185 million cable project was central to "guarantee the neutrality" of the Internet, signaling her desire to shield Brazil's Internet traffic from U.S. surveillance. According to other sources, the construction is scheduled to begin in July.

A joint venture between Brazilian telecoms provider Telebras and Spain's IslaLink Submarine Cables would lay the communications link. Telebras would have a 35 percent stake, IslaLink would have a 45 percent interest and European and Brazilian pension funds could put up the remainder.

So it has come to this"

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by basicbasicbasic on Tuesday February 25 2014, @12:40PM

    by basicbasicbasic (411) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @12:40PM (#6574)

    The word "country" has more than one meaning.

    There are certain contexts where "country" can mean the citizens of that country, but in a political context "country" means the government of that country, and he was obviously laying blame on the government of the USA not the citizens of the USA. If another country wants to deal with your country they don't meet with Joe Sixpack from Kickapoo, they meet with the government. The government makes the laws, controls the police and the army and the Three Letter Agencies. As an outsider I do not blame the citizens of the USA for what the NSA is doing, but I will blame the USA - meaning the government.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @01:44PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @01:44PM (#6596) Journal

    The word "country" has more than one meaning.

    There are certain contexts where "country"...

    While there are more contexts in which if you utter USA Joe Sixpack from Kickapoo will automatically think That's my country. Patriot/nationalist or not, I have some affinity to it (well, the last part sounds unlikely coming from Joe Sixpack, but never mind... you get my point).

    but I will blame the USA - meaning the government

    A matter of perception and it's not your perception or intended meaning, don't you think?
    I (an outsider to US myself) mean: how would you explain a defensive attitude in replies/comments on the line of "Spying? What's the big deal, everybody is doing it; whoever's not doing it, it's a pussy"?
    To me, it sounds an awful lot as an ex post facto justification to alleviate some lost face in a dirty game (I'm pretty sure the very great majority of these posters aren't cold-fjord type of characters)

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    • (Score: 0) by Cold Fjord on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:07AM

      by Cold Fjord (129) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:07AM (#7104)

      Spying is a means of gaining a clearer view of a situation in what are naturally muddy waters. We don't do it because everyone else does it; we do it because it allows us to set more effective policy.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:53PM (#7557)

        You've already said that.