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Journal by Runaway1956

The talk show hosts have blathered about #WalkAway for a few days now. Finally - I looked it up. Definitely interesting!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/03/former_liberal_to_progressives_time_to_walk_away.html

Brandon Straka says that less than a year ago, he was a liberal. He explains why he changed his mind in this "viral video" encouraging other progressives to "walk away" from the remains of the Democratic Party.

"Once upon a time, I was a liberal,” the gay NYC hairdresser begins. "I felt I’d found a tribe.” But, he said, they will do “absolutely nothing for you."

The video is at least a month old, but Straka appeared on FNC's 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' on Monday to discuss what he means:

Watch the latest video at foxnews.com

Another story from an apparently Black Canadian woman who married an American.

https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2018/08/10/heres-chose-walkaway-liberalism/

My father-in-law was a popular local pastor, and also the first black man I’d ever met who called himself a Republican and a conservative. We were fast friends, and often talked politics. He would gently but intelligently challenge a lot of my notions and beliefs. I thought I knew a lot because I read a lot of headlines. He challenged me to read the actual stories. I thought I new a lot because I watched Bill Maher. He challenged me to watch the things going on around me. I thought I knew a lot because…well, I knew a lot! He challenged me to value results over talk. I wasn’t a convert, but I began to think that maybe I didn’t have the full picture when it came to my ideas about Republicans and conservatives. Could it be that I was depending too much on salacious headlines and raging talking heads for my opinions about conservatism?

Back to Brandon: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/08/brandon-straka-walk-away-campaign-founder-denied-service-camera-store

Straka said the salesperson recognized him from his campaign and said that he couldn't sell anything to him because he did not support the "#WalkAway" campaign.

According to the movement's Facebook page, it's meant to "encourage and support those on the left to walk away from the divisive tenets."

Straka said following his encounter at the electronics store, he started "shaking" because he hadn't experienced negative backlash like that before.

"It took my breath away," he said.

Two videos, each of them very eloquent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pjs7uoOkag&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQXW2Ob1PU&feature=youtu.be

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:36PM (33 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:36PM (#747489) Homepage Journal

    We are all aware that an indictment is proof of nothing, other than some smooth talker convinced a jury that he might know something. The level of "proof" needed to indict is pretty low. But, yeah, your CNN link offers some minimal support to the D agenda.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:54PM (8 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:54PM (#747508) Journal

    We are all aware that an indictment is proof of nothing...

    It's not prof that they committed a crime. But it is proof that they're not American, and therefore are lying about leaving the Democratic party.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:51PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:51PM (#747573)

      Just FYI you should really get on board with the fact that our two party system is fucked and stop pushing D D D all the time. I am super liberal but voted 3rd party last election because I couldn't stomach the level of bullshit the DNC pulled to undermine the single good candidate we had. I'm not saying to NOT vote for any dems, but do stop pushing the partisan divide please.

      Very good point you made, sadly some of these fools obviously don't care about facts. I can imagine it would be hard to admit being trolled by another country.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:17PM (2 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:17PM (#747591) Journal

        I'm a moderate, registered, Democrat so I'll continue to push for the party I support, thanks.

        Frankly, I'd probably be a Republican by now if they hadn't been taken over by the crazies.

        I believe that our two-party system is an emergent property of our system of voting. I support alternate voting systems that address this systemic issue, as do many of my Democratic peers.

         

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:57PM (#747716)

          I'm a moderate, registered, Democrat so I'll continue to push for the party I support, thanks.

          Frankly, I'd probably be a Republican by now if they hadn't been taken over by the crazies.

          #walkaway el monito. Embrace the darkness [youtube.com] and join us, we have cookies!

        • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @01:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @01:37AM (#747747)

          You're a moderate? Moderate smoker? Moderate drinker? Moderate scofflaw? Your politics certainly aren't moderate.

    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:24PM (2 children)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:24PM (#747710) Homepage Journal

      "I don’t buy the argument that Democrats have to decide whether we’re a party of blue-collar white men in rural America or a party of African-American women in the big cities, a PARTY OF IMMIGRANTS or a party of feminists." Stephanie Schriock. The President of EMILY’s List.

      Serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California. NO QUESTION THAT #voterfraud [twitter.com] did take place, and in favor of #CorruptHillary [twitter.com]! I put VERY STRONG sanctions on many Russians b/c of the horrible Election hacking!!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @11:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @11:41AM (#747857)

        "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan

        Those are very incredible claims indeed.

        You seem to be SO certain they are true, it should be easy to PROVIDE EVIDENCE!

        Besides, it would not surprise me if it came out that YOU performed VOTER FRAUD to get elected!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @12:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 13 2018, @12:49AM (#748131)

        Saw the following comment [soylentnews.org] in reply to a different comment. Seems so very appropriate in reply to YOUR comment:

        A common ploy of the untrustworthy is to project their malfeasance on others.

        If *I* am doing it, then surely they are, too!

        Whenever I see such STRONGLY STATED, and vacuously UNSUPPORTED assertions... well, I look at where it's coming from.

        Show me the PROOF, not the accusation (anyone can make accusations!) PROVE IT!

        People in glass houses...

        One would, therefore, reasonably ask how much VOTER FRAUD are YOU PLANNING for 2018?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @12:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @12:19AM (#747723)

      AFAIK you do not need to be a citizen to be a member of a party.

  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Thursday October 11 2018, @05:05PM (23 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Thursday October 11 2018, @05:05PM (#747516) Journal

    I always enjoy our resident McCarthy, he won't be satisfied until everyone who disagrees with him (Russians) are all strung up, especially those Russian blacks like Kanye

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:04PM (22 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:04PM (#747546)

      So the fact that you are being played for chumps by Russian intel does not bug you?? I guess you just enjoy the support after so many years of beimg told you are wrong, even if it is fake manipulative support.

      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:48PM (21 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 11 2018, @06:48PM (#747570) Journal

        So the fact that you are being played for chumps by Russian intel does not bug you?? I guess you just enjoy the support after so many years of beimg told you are wrong, even if it is fake manipulative support.

        It's so clear from the polling that Dems are increasing their ranks and increasing their engagement. It seems really far-fetched to think this campaign is actually going to get any Dems to switch.

        If anything, it seems like it would increase Rep complacency and thus suppress the vote.

        So why are they pumping it, then?

        I think its purpose actually is to increase Rep complacency.

        The Russian goal is not to help Republicans, it's to damage the US. They convince all the Reps it's in the bag. Then when Dems win big they claim fake news/conspiracy and pump up the rightwing murder fantasy stuff (that we're already seeing from Runaway recently) and try to get them to kick off another civil war.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by shortscreen on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:40PM (17 children)

          by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:40PM (#747601) Journal

          What Russophobes fail to understand is that nothing said by supposed Russian trolls is or could be as DAMAGING to the US as the crap coming from the western corporate media, our own array of plutocrat-run think tanks and NGOs, or the two-party system itself.

          Many of the talking points being attributed to bad-faith influence campaigns amount to nothing more than obvious "the emperor has no clothes" observations. The ultimate example is the release by wikileaks of hard evidence of DNC corruption. The corporate media directed the herd away from the reality of said corruption, and focused instead on attacking the messenger, which was somehow made out to be Russia.

          They exclaim "Putin is trying to steal the emperor's clothes!" to avoid having to admit that the emperor has been naked the whole time.

          • (Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:57PM (16 children)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 11 2018, @07:57PM (#747606) Journal

            What Russophobes fail to understand is that nothing said by supposed Russian trolls is or could be as DAMAGING to the US as the crap coming from the western corporate media,

            Inciting a civil war, or even just more rightwing terrorism, is pretty damaging...

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by shortscreen on Thursday October 11 2018, @08:43PM (15 children)

              by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday October 11 2018, @08:43PM (#747635) Journal

              Is Maxine Waters funded by Russia?

              • (Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:02PM (7 children)

                by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:02PM (#747646) Journal

                Is Maxine Waters funded by Russia?

                Did Maxine Waters murder Heather Heyer? Did she advocate for any violent acts? Did lefties commit 59% of the US terrorist attacks in 2017?

                No Maxine said it might be OK to use your first ammendment rights in a restaurant.

                The right murdered Heather Heyer. The right advoated for violent acts. [snopes.com] The right committed 59% of US terrorist attacks in 2017. [go.com]

                • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:37PM (2 children)

                  by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:37PM (#747667) Journal

                  Oh, so Russia did all of that stuff then?

                  No, it seems that you forgot about Russia for a moment and turned back to the domestic partisan conflicts. Those are the exact things that I just told you are truly damaging to this country far beyond any alleged Russian influence.

                  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @05:40PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @05:40PM (#747977)

                    He can't hear you over his own monkey chatter.

                    • (Score: 1) by DECbot on Thursday November 01 2018, @11:38PM

                      by DECbot (832) on Thursday November 01 2018, @11:38PM (#756668) Journal

                      Damn Russian monkeys....
                       
                      But why are they marked "made in China" and "assembled in the USA" on the ass?

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                • (Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:33PM (3 children)

                  by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday October 11 2018, @11:33PM (#747712) Homepage Journal

                  "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and YOU CREATE A CROWD AND YOU PUSH back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." Low I.Q. Crazy @MaxineWaters [twitter.com].

                  Impeach her & LOCK HER UP!! #ImpeachMaxineWaters [twitter.com]

                  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @11:58AM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @11:58AM (#747858)

                    A common ploy of the untrustworthy is to project their malfeasance on others.

                    If *I* am doing it, then surely they are, too!

                    Whenever I see such STRONGLY STATED, and vacuously UNSUPPORTED assertions... well, I look at where it's coming from.

                    Show me the PROOF, not the accusation (anyone can make accusations!) PROVE IT!

                    People in glass houses...

                    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Friday October 12 2018, @01:13PM (1 child)

                      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday October 12 2018, @01:13PM (#747882) Homepage Journal

                      We have the proof. On video. Look & listen!! youtu.be/TtKDDqbwfRE [youtu.be]

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @02:35PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 12 2018, @02:35PM (#747902)

                        Thank you.

                        I'd heard you say "lock her up" so many times, I misread that as a reference to our former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

                        I apologize.

              • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:15PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:15PM (#747654)

                You're insane.

                You righties constantly want everyone else to just accept your shitty views, to maintain freedom of speech (which I agree is more important than some white supremacist being able to post their shit), yet here we have you arguing that Maxine Waters is trying to start a civil war? Why? Because you are an intolerant fuck who can't handle someone else having the freedom to speak their mind? You can't stand that someone calls you out and you need to silence them?

                Get fucked you hypocrite.

                I did a quick search to see what bizarro world was saying about this and I found the following

                Democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters, calling for attacks on the Trump administration at a rally in Los Angeles Saturday: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

                Another site quoted the same thing, I guess protesting and speaking loudly are what you consider violence? moron

                The 2nd site went on with their crazy rant

                It’s about damn time. Waters has been behaving in a way that is totally unacceptable. We wouldn’t let children act out like this — but a lawmaker in Congress? She is completely unprofessional and un-American. As corrupt and despicable people like Clinton or Pelosi are, they don’t act like this.

                We have to keep in mind that Waters’ words might border on criminal. Free speech protects us in most cases. But if you say something that directs people to harm others (or break the law in any way), you are violating the law. It’s clear by Waters’ own words that she is directing liberals to attack conservatives. What else does “you push back on them” mean but violence?

                Jesus fucking christ what stupidity. If you're gonna get bent out of shape over that phrasing I think you should denounce Trump for telling his supporters to "exercise their 2nd amendment rights" which is a much more direct call for violence. Not to mention the million other things he's said that are way more fucked up than anything Maxine Waters has said.

                You lot are fucked in the head really badly and you won't be satisfied until you see blood. You can pretend it is the liberal side of the US calling for violence, but that doesn't make it true. Keep making mountains out of mole hills while ignoring the volcanoes in your own yard. So. Fucking. Stupid.

                • (Score: 3, Touché) by shortscreen on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:40PM (5 children)

                  by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:40PM (#747670) Journal

                  You got that strawman good.

                  And you forgot to blame Russia, so you fell into my trap the same as DeathMonkey.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @10:07PM (4 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @10:07PM (#747678)

                    See my first sentence.

                    There was no straw, just morons that can't handle facing their own hypocrisy.

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 12 2018, @01:38AM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 12 2018, @01:38AM (#747748) Homepage Journal

          Denial is not a river in Egypt.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 15 2018, @09:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 15 2018, @09:33PM (#749231)

            No kidding, it seems to be an all-encompassing mental state for people like you.