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posted by martyb on Tuesday October 23 2018, @10:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the conflict-of-interest-much? dept.

The Guardian reports:

Georgia secretary of state and gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp improperly purged more than 340,000 voters from the state's registration rolls, an investigation charges.

Greg Palast, a journalist and the director of the Palast Investigative Fund, said an analysis he commissioned found 340,134 voters were removed from the rolls on the grounds that they had moved - but they actually still live at the address where they are registered.

"Their registration is cancelled. Not pending, not inactive – cancelled. If they show up to vote on 6 November, they will not be allowed to vote. That's wrong," Palast told reporters on a call on Friday. "We can prove they're still there. They should be allowed to vote."

[...] Palast and the Georgia Coalition for the People's Agenda filed a lawsuit against Kemp on Friday to force him to release additional records related to the state's removal of voters.

Under Georgia procedures, registered voters who have not cast ballots for three years are sent a notice asking them to confirm they still live at their address. If they don't return it, they are marked inactive. If they don't vote for two more general elections after that, they are removed from the rolls.


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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by jmorris on Wednesday October 24 2018, @02:53AM (6 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday October 24 2018, @02:53AM (#752760)

    You are parroting a common Democrat talking point without spending five minutes to find out if it is, as almost EVERY accusation of voter suppression is, a brazen lie. But don't believe me, believe the North Dakota Secretary of State website, wherein one finds that your poor injun is covered by "Tribal government issued identification (including those issued by BIA for a tribe located in North Dakota, any other tribal agency or entity, or any other document that sets forth the tribal member’s name, date of birth, and current North Dakota residential address)" in the list of acceptable forms of identification for voting. So while you are possibly factual (didn't dig enough) in that an ID card may not be valid with a P.O. box (and probably shouldn't be valid if you think on the matter for a few seconds) that wouldn't be the typical ID possessed by someone living on a reservation. Because that tribal ID would unlock so many other benefits dependent on tribal membership, like being allowed to live there in the first place.

    As I said, don't believe me, read and learn. vote.nd.gov [nd.gov]

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @04:09AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @04:09AM (#752783)

    Ah yes, hiding behind technicalities, the have of a true coward.

    Learn more about how such policies affect real people and you might get a better understanding. Like TMB saying "the governor followed the law" as if that makes it ok?

    Still, it's a complicated matter for thousands of Native American voters in North Dakota who, because the Supreme Court last week allowed the state to implement its strict voter ID law, now find themselves scurrying to make sure they have identification with street address so their votes will count. According to studies commissioned by Native American rights groups who sued North Dakota over the new law, roughly 35 percent of that population doesn't have an acceptable ID with a residential address.

    See that little technicality right there? Some have tribal IDs but without a specific or acceptable address, such as those who just live somewhere on the reservation without any named roads. 35% disenfranchised by that law, and it is clear these policies are specifically crafted to have these results.

    By allowing the *possibility* for people to vote Republicans sweep all criticisms aside. Like the "personal responsibility" trope that allows you greedy fucks to strip social programs. "If they're poor that is THEIR fault". Goddamn regressive fuck jmorris, yes your ilk are actually destroying this country and I'll keep repeating it until that dim lightbulb turns on.

    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday October 24 2018, @05:09AM (4 children)

      by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday October 24 2018, @05:09AM (#752803)

      Like I said, stop reading the brazen lies in the FakeNews and read the link I provided to the actual rules. Yes you have to have a permanent address to vote, but just about anything with that address on it can be used to supplement a photo ID that only has a P.O. Box. If you stop being a political hack for a few seconds and try being the sort of high functioning person who has any business posting on a site like this you would be able to work out why that requirement HAS to be a hard and fast one to prevent rampant fraud. This was a long standing and widespread problem in nearby SD back in the Tom Daschle era when the reservations could be counted on to supply however many votes Tom needed to stay a Senator. Pretty safe bet the same thing was equally rampant in ND until they tired of the antics and ended it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:11AM (#752820)

        I did read what you linked, I'm not an asshole like some around here, and then I did some searching and responded with info about how you are missing the point. I'm not a political hack, I give 2 shits for the GOP and 1 shit for the DNC, and I actually care about the decent politicians that are trying to actually help the goddamn country.

        If YOU would drop your political hacking for a few seconds you might realize that the "logic" of these laws fails the reality test. But no, you couldn't hear that point and proceeded to spread more lies about "rampant fraud" due to lack of voter IDs.

        I just read this story https://www.upi.com/SD-officials-reviewing-vote-fraud-claims/97861039224924/ [upi.com] from an obviously biased outlet and even those allegations were quite tame compared to disenfranchising 340k voters. No whataboutism is going to save you here you fool, two wrongs don't make a right. Did you not learn anything about right and wrong from your parents?

      • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:23AM (1 child)

        by Whoever (4524) on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:23AM (#752827) Journal

        Yes you have to have a permanent address to vote

        Why? Are people without a permanent address not citizens? Are they lesser citizens? Perhaps only 2/3s of a person?

        There is no evidence of significant voter fraud that possessing a government-issued ID would prevent.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:47AM

          by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:47AM (#752833) Homepage Journal

          Some homeless California folks all registered to vote with their address being under a certain tree in a certain city park, then spent ten years in court to win the right to actually register that way.

          In California, Oregon and Washington specifically, for "Residence Address" I was advised to tell them to "put down wherever you hang out".

          I registered at the park next to city hall in paso robles, california, and in portland oregon, pioneer courthouse square.

          I still have a California homeless-version state ID card: for my address it has what at the time was my postal address at a day center.

          If _homeless_ people have the right to vote in North Dakota, how are they affected by the ID law's street address requirement?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @06:39AM (#752830)

        I read a "scathing" article about Deschle which linked to his lawsuit and described it as barring any RNC poll watchers from reservations. I read the report they linked to and it didn't say any such thing. The lawsuit sought to have the RNC watchers conform to existing laws about voter intimidation.

        Your "side" is a bunch of loons led around by the nose. You think you are righteous because you believe the lies. Maybe you'd say the same thing about me, but I bothered to actually read up on what you stated and think for myself. It sounds like possibly there was voter fraud, but aside from some juicy random hearsay there was nothing backing it up. I found this particular bit enlightening:

        Let's not pretend any of that goo-goo nonsense about how the law ought to apply to both parties equally.

        Really? So someone suing the stop voter intimidation is dismissed as "goo-goo nonsense"? Yeaaah, the truth is coming out and you don't look good.

        Both of the above cases as well as the Ohio and South Dakota rulings deal with intimidation at a polling place. The case law about voter intimidation that takes place elsewhere is even more sparse. In 1992, the DOJ asserted that you can intimidate voters by mail. It filed suit after North Carolina Republicans and the Jesse Helms campaign sent postcards to black voters with warnings about the penalties for voter fraud. The case was settled with a consent decree that banned “ballot security” programs “directed at qualified voters in which the racial minority status of some or all of the voters is one of the factors in the decision to target those voters.”

        So what you've got is vague accusations of voter fraud which don't seem to have ever resulted in an incriminating investigation, but we have multiple examples of the GOP engaging in voter fraud and intimidation. Keep lying to yourself, seems to be working for you so far /s