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posted by Fnord666 on Friday October 26 2018, @04:40PM   Printer-friendly
from the space-elevator-or-vapor-wire dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

A research team from Tsinghua University in Beijing has developed a fibre they say is so strong it could even be used to build an elevator to space.

They say just 1 cubic centimetre of the fibre – made from carbon nanotube – would not break under the weight of 160 elephants, or more than 800 tonnes. And that tiny piece of cable would weigh just 1.6 grams.

"This is a breakthrough," said Wang Changqing, a scientist at a key space elevator research centre at Northwestern Polytechnical University in Xian who was not involved in the Tsinghua study.

The Chinese team has developed a new "ultralong" fibre from carbon nanotube that they say is stronger than anything seen before, patenting the technology and publishing part of their research in the journal Nature Nanotechnology earlier this year.

"It is evident that the tensile strength of carbon nanotube bundles is at least 9 to 45 times that of other materials," the team said in the paper.

But hey, it's China, please consume with a medium-sized boulder of salt.

Source: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2170193/china-has-strongest-fibre-can-haul-160-elephants-and-space


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  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 26 2018, @06:17PM (5 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Friday October 26 2018, @06:17PM (#754170) Journal
    "How do you join fibers at the ends, anyway? Superglue?"

    As far as I understand, you simply don't - not at that level anyway. Once a bunch of strands are together in the form of a rope, you can join the ropes using knots, but doing that at the level of monofilament isn't such a great plan. One of the advantages of synthetic fibres over natural ones is the relative ease of producing extremely long filaments.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 26 2018, @06:31PM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) on Friday October 26 2018, @06:31PM (#754180) Homepage Journal

    With most knots, you lower the breaking point of your rope anyway.

    In pioneering, the use of knots and lashings is of supreme importance. A wrong knot, an insecure lashing, or a weak rope could lead to disaster. Did you know, for example, that tying a Bowline in a rope cuts its efficiency by 40%? And that a Square Knot reduces the rope’s efficiency by 50%? Which means that it’s only half as strong as an unknotted rope. Knots, turns, and hitches weaken a rope by forming a bend that distributes the load on the fibers unequally.

    https://scoutpioneering.com/tag/how-much-knots-weaken-rope/ [scoutpioneering.com]

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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 26 2018, @09:27PM (3 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Friday October 26 2018, @09:27PM (#754237) Journal
      Yep. Splice knots can preserve more of the strength, but they're not easy to do, and even that's not perfect. So again, the longer the fibers you start with, the better.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 27 2018, @01:24AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 27 2018, @01:24AM (#754324)

        In composite materials where large parts have to take tension, it's common for fibers to be bonded side-by-side (in shear) with a minimum of the adhesive (epoxy, or other).
        Nothing says that the space elevator needs a flexible tether.

        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday October 27 2018, @06:55AM (1 child)

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday October 27 2018, @06:55AM (#754387) Journal

          Nothing says that the space elevator needs a flexible tether.

          If it isn't flexible, how do you store it in a launch vehicle in order to get it up to space, in order to start building the space elevator?

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          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 27 2018, @11:56AM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) on Saturday October 27 2018, @11:56AM (#754422) Homepage Journal

            To answer *only* the question you asked: Make the fiber in space, and lower it to the ground. Thus, a rigid fiber cable need never be packed into a launch vehicle. Note that I have not attempted to explain where the materials for the fiber come from, or when or how the fiber fabrication plant came into being.

            I suspect though, that the more rigid the elevator is, the more susceptible to damage it would be. It's going to have to flex. The far end, at the counterweight, won't be absolutely motionless, after all. The moon will influence it's orbit, as well as the sun, and to a far lesser degree, each of the nearer planets.

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