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The United Kingdom told Ecuador in August that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange would not be extradited if he left the country's London embassy, where he has lived under asylum since 2012, Ecuador's top government attorney said on Thursday.
[...] Salvador said Ecuador passed on the UK's response to Assange's lawyers, but noted that if Assange stayed in the embassy Ecuador would put new conditions on his stay. "Mr. Assange had a choice between turning himself in to British authorities with those assurances, or staying in the embassy of Ecuador, but given that the asylum had lasted six years with no signs of immediate resolution we were going to place certain rules." Salvador said at a news conference.
[...] The relationship between Assange and Ecuador has grown increasingly tense in the past year. Assange filed a lawsuit in an Ecuadorean court last week claiming the new asylum terms, which require him to pay for medical bills and telephone calls and to clean up after his pet cat, violate his rights.
Previously:
Julian Assange Sues Ecuador for "Violating His Fundamental Rights".
(Score: 2) by Snow on Friday October 26 2018, @09:34PM (9 children)
Is he just going to stay there forever? Is he paying any rent? If not, can I just move into some embassy? It's probably nicer than my house.
(Score: 2) by beckett on Friday October 26 2018, @09:53PM (8 children)
imo this is mostly about Assange trying to stay relevant, but
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Sulla on Friday October 26 2018, @10:10PM (7 children)
Is the cat bit some fake news to make Assange seem less credible? If he isn't cleaning up after his cat he sounds like a world class ass.
hrr im mad that you are allowing me to stay here for free so I don't get jailed/killed and you won't provide me someone to pick up after my cat.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @10:41PM (5 children)
I vote fake smear to make him look even worse.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 27 2018, @03:05AM (4 children)
Possibly a smear campaign against Assange. I'm weighing things in my head. Let's add in that Assange's odd incarceration has probably done things to his head. I think he started out something of an egocentric ass, and he has probably suffered psychologically. Today, he may well be a royal pain in the ass to deal with. A cat? That's usually a chick thing. Yeah, guys, even macho guys, are allowed to like cats, but few of us are willing to invest the kind of care that a cat requires when penned up indoors. We generally prefer dogs.
I'm on Assange's side, but that doesn't change the fact that he is an egotistical ass. I like him in England, I might not like him living in my home, or even next door.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1) by ChrisMaple on Saturday October 27 2018, @03:49PM
It brings to mind images of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 27 2018, @06:24PM (2 children)
A dog needs to go out to walk, and Assange can't do that. Cats don't have that problem and are more interesting than fish.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 27 2018, @09:04PM (1 child)
Duh dont you get it? Dogs are manly and cats are for pussies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 28 2018, @02:27AM
Assange is too much of a pussy to go outside, so a cat sounds perfect for him.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @11:38PM
To be fair, it's the only pussy he gets these days and the guy has a reputation for being somewhat sloppy in these regards. [observer.com]
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday October 26 2018, @10:09PM (2 children)
"Properly" could still include extradition.
TFA also says he'd still be up for six months in prison for violating his bail conditions.. were those charges later withdrawn?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday October 26 2018, @10:31PM
At least not in the states I know about.
However, Sweden is a completely different country with a completely different legal tradition.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Saturday October 27 2018, @11:10PM
My first thought was "six months of prison" just do it and get it the heck over with.
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My second thought was "six months of prison" during which they can reevaluate that decision not to extradite...
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @10:14PM (2 children)
Excellent rhetorical construction:
In the face of mounting threats, the working class must defend Julian Assange [wsws.org]:
Hmm. I'm certain that the UK would never lie or mislead.... I guess the USA will just have to let him get away....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @11:15PM (1 child)
Citing a "source" that amounts to one persons blog doesn't hold much water. That post doesn't contain a single reference, not one.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @11:34PM
Where may I find the sources cited for the Reuters article?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @10:26PM
We were just joking.. off to jail you go.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday October 26 2018, @10:28PM (3 children)
"It would be helpful to _all_ concerned."
Cats are very tidy creatures. That's why they often know how to use litter boxes from the very start, as young kittens - two of my kittens did, but not all of them.
Really, if he doesn't tend to his cat, some animal rights group should be suing Assange.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @10:35PM
some animal rights group should be suing Assange
Yep I am 100% sure that cat is totally abused. I can totally read the dudes mind about what he is doing! Get a grip dude.
(Score: 2) by NewNic on Friday October 26 2018, @10:49PM (1 child)
It has nothing to do with being "tidy" and everything to do with the texture of the material in the litter box.
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(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Friday October 26 2018, @11:17PM
I think it's more about the smell:
https://www.livescience.com/33147-why-do-cats-bury-their-poop.html [livescience.com]
If you fail to clean the litter box regularly, there will be a strong odor. That will agitate or confuse the cat and they may end up pooping somewhere you don't want them to.
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @10:32PM
Why do the Ecuadorians continue to besmirtch this poor cat's reputation? PETA should launch an investigation to determine whether it is actually Assange who is peeing on the oriental rugs.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday October 26 2018, @10:39PM (7 children)
Now, has the United States gone on record that under no circumstances would they try an extraordinary rendition on Mr. Assange? As much as I love my country, we opened the door on such a question having to be asked.
(Which has nothing to do with the lawsuit, which I don't have tremendous opinion about other than it makes me wonder if Ecuador really knew what it was biting off because England doesn't recognize diplomatic asylum.) If England isn't worried about extradition to either Sweden or the U.S. (if Sweden dropped the charges how could they extradite?) the easiest way out for them would be for the Queen to guarantee Assange royal pardon in exchange for his coming out. He pleads guilty to jumping bail, he's pardoned, everybody moves on.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday October 27 2018, @01:38AM
Wondering if there is a 7 year statute of limitations on this: he's been in sanctuary for 6 years. Are they trying to force him out before the limitation is up?
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by canopic jug on Saturday October 27 2018, @06:36AM (5 children)
There were never any charges from Sweden against Assange. He was wanted for questiong about a case that a new, second investigator decided to re-open. It is popular for social media to spread the lie that there were charges, however. So it is a common misunderstanding about the case because that lie really gained traction on social media to the point where the mainstream media often failed to look into the facts and just parroted what they "found" in their social media feeds.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by splodus on Saturday October 27 2018, @08:43PM (3 children)
Do you have a link to something that backs this up?
I have a vague memory too that he was quite willing to be 'questioned' in the embassy, but the Swedish prosecuters refused. Subsequently it turned out that dozens of others had, in fact, been questioned by Swedish officials on UK soil?
It has always seemed to me that, regardless of Asange's 'innocence' - he's had every reason to suspect that he would not be treated fairly if he 'gave himself up'...
(Score: 5, Informative) by canopic jug on Sunday October 28 2018, @04:28AM (2 children)
Yes, but if you spend your time digging through the 2010 articles, before prosecutor Marianne Ny took over and re-opened the case, you are more likely to find accurate material. It may take some effort on your part because the web indexes are quite poor in their ability to sort old articles to the top of any search you might try.
However, teleSUR has a decent summary from John Pilger [telesurtv.net] last year. The United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention also issued a report two years ago [un.org] covering the facts. Again, there are flat out lies spread on social media and for various reasons mainstream media picks them up and parrots them uncritically. That's part of a feedback loop. The media publish insinuations, the social media interpret the insinuations as fact, then the same media can cherry pick pre-packaged lies from social media. Repeat ad nauseum.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by splodus on Sunday October 28 2018, @10:54AM (1 child)
That's really helpful, thank you!
(Score: 2) by canopic jug on Sunday October 28 2018, @11:29AM
Another factor may be the grudges carried by several groups over the fact that Wikileaks played a very critical role in saving, or at least prolonging, Edward Snowden's life. Julian Assange was in charge when Sarah Harrison [vogue.com] helped Snowden hide in and then escape from Sheremetyevo Airport. Without Wikileaks, notably Sarah and Julian among others, he would have been done for then and there.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday October 28 2018, @06:49AM
My understanding is that under the Swedish judicial system, charges can't be laid until after questioning. So the questioning was the first step to laying charges.
Doesn't change the fact that reopening the investigation seemed political and it was weird that they wouldn't question him in the embassy or the UK.
(Score: 2) by Entropy on Friday October 26 2018, @10:40PM
Right?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @11:35PM
If you leave the embassy, #CrookedHillary will be able to call in a drone strike.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 27 2018, @03:49AM
Dave said that Ecuador heard that Russia said that Chinese heard the Saudis said that French told that Japanese seem to imply that India assured that Trump said that the fake news CNN said that NY Times wrote that North Korea said that Canada, or was it South Africa, anyway, either of them said that