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posted by mrpg on Monday November 05 2018, @05:12AM   Printer-friendly
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Swedish ISP punishes Elsevier for forcing it to block Sci-Hub by also blocking Elsevier

[...] Unfortunately for Swedes and for science, the Swedish Patent and Market Court (which never met a copyright overreach it didn't love) upheld the order, and Bahnhof, a small ISP with limited resources, decided not to appeal (a bigger, richer ISP had just lost a similar appeal).

Instead, Bahnhof now blocks attempts to visit Sci-Hub domains, and Elsevier.com, redirecting attempts to visit Elsevier to a page explaining how Elsevier's sleaze and bullying have allowed it to monopolize scientific publishing, paywalling publicly funded science that is selected, reviewed and edited by volunteers who mostly work for publicly funded institutions.

To as[sic] icing on this revenge-flavored cake, Bahnhof also detects attempts to visit its own site from the Patent and Market Court and redirects them to a page explaining that since the Patent and Market Court believes that parts of the web should be blocked, Bahnhof is blocking the court's access to its part of the web.


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 06 2018, @03:21AM (3 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday November 06 2018, @03:21AM (#758341) Journal

    That's why I never will :-)

    Obviously you could never take a post of mine seriously, since you plainly do not understand them. Let me try to make it simple for you. Elsevier is claiming that a website should be de-platformed because copyrights. See? Do you understand now where the censorship comes in? It is property, imaginary property. Now the fact that the ISP said, "OK, we will block them. But we will also block you." Turnabout is fair play, my luscious and squishy AC! And you have understood what I am calling for completely wrong. I do not say "censor that Nazi"! Instead I say "Concentrate fire on the enemy lines! Paint for airstrike! Punch the Nazis in the face." See? No censorship at all, just good ol' American Anti-fascism!

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @04:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 06 2018, @04:22PM (#758560)

    Violent reaction to speech is fascism. Violence in only justified in the defense of freedom. You draw first blood, you're the bad guy. And in this case also, the ISP is the bad guy. Censorship is always evil. Elsevier is just mouthing off (kinda like you do). The people (ISP) that acquiesce to them are the evil ones.

    The reason I don't take you seriously is because you are just being silly, looking for a reaction. I would call it trolling, but that's too negative. The funny mod works best for you, for levity's sake. Gotta keep things positive.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 07 2018, @04:16PM (#759018)

    Oh! Moderation, eh? Whatever works, babe

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 08 2018, @03:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 08 2018, @03:46PM (#759396)

    I'm not neccesarily disagreeing with you, but are you like this IRL ?