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At least 80 percent of all audio calls are gathered and stored by the NSA, whistleblower William Binney has revealed. The former code-breaker says the spy agency's ultimate aim is no less than total population control.
"At least 80 percent of fiber-optic cables globally go via the US", Binney said. "This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80 percent of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores."
Binney has no evidence to substantiate his claims as he did not take any documents with him when he left the NSA. However, he insists the organization is untruthful about its intelligence gathering practices and their ultimate aim. He says that recent Supreme Court decisions have led him to believe the NSA won't stop until it has complete control over the population.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @02:31AM
Good think I never use my phone! What % of Soilent trolls does NSA read?
Niger Niger Niger Niamey!
(Score: 4, Funny) by davester666 on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:30AM
I believe they have a dedicated 10 Mb HD tasked with storing all the content and metadata of soylent news. That should last the next 10 years or so.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday July 13 2014, @02:32AM
Makes you wonder what they are going to use total population control for..
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @02:39AM
To sell you Obamacare.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:19AM
oh plz.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by keplr on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:09AM
It's about protecting the US's economic system, from threats both external and internal. If someone starts to get too popular with the masses, preaching a message of pacifism, humanism, and non-materialism, that person needs to be discredited and silenced. Even better, let's try to identify and discredit them before they get popular. Then there are the actual violent foreign terrorists, we need to stop them too. No need to be subtle with them, they're not even US citizens (some actually are) so they're beyond concern: track their cellphones and drop a missile on them remotely.
You've got a certain type of person who sees our economic model and way of life as the apex of the human spirit. It's our right to spread this model far and wide, and dominate all other systems of thought and ways of life. This incidentally pisses a lot of people off, and since the people in charge have an us-vs-them mentality, anything is justified in protecting "us" and our interests; loosely defined as what is best for the top US corporations and political factions.
I don't respond to ACs.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Covalent on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:23AM
Old Mr. Orwell has it right, yet again. The government does not seek power for some idealistic reason, or even some nefarious reason. The government seeks power for its own sake. They seek power so that they can become more powerful. They seek power because having power makes you powerful, and being powerful is useful in all sorts of unimagined scenarios. Power is not a means, it is an end. And our government, even though it may be better than many, is fundamentally no different from any other: it seeks to become more powerful.
You can't rationally argue somebody out of a position they didn't rationally get into.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 19 2014, @01:48AM
If you think you're getting the truth from Bush, Obama, or any one of their cronies at NSA then pleas watch the two part video from PBS, Frontline titled, "United States of SECRETS". It tells the entire story of the rise of 100% spying on the U.S. population by both Presidents. If you care about your freedom and the Constitution it is well worth watching.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @02:48AM
Back in 2008, Shia LeBeouf blew the whistle while on the Tonight Show. [youtube.com]
It is interesting to read the rebuttal by the (presumptive) FBI consultant. [wired.com] His reasoning about why the NSA wouldn't want to over-collect seems kind of hollow nowadays.
(Score: 1) by johaquila on Sunday July 13 2014, @05:54AM
Fun fact: Shia Labeouf said in 2008 that the FBI is storing 20 % of phone conversations in the US. Now Edward Snowden said the NSA is storing 80 %. There are several possible explanations that bring the two statements together, most of which involve that the 2008 statement wasn't completely correct and/or the outright criminal part of the NSA's snooping activity has become worse since.
But there is also the explanation that has to do with the fact that 20 % + 80 % = 100 %.
(Score: -1) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:28AM
It is simple. If these NSA practices are conductive for procreation of the people, the evolution will vote respective genes or cultural memes up, otherwise down.
So lets look how US are faring now in terms of NRR or Net Reproductive Rate:
US: 1.0
comparison: Philippines: 1.5
So now US have 300 million and Philippines 100 millions - ratio 3:1
Assuming constant rate, in 4 generations or 100 years it will be 300 millions US - 506 millions Philippines - ratio 1:1.7 These numbers will be probably both reduced by Earth hitting the resource limit.
So - good luck with this NSA. Who are you going to staff with in few generations? And are you sure those people will share the same values and personality makeup conductive to your kind of operations?
Karel Kulhavy, Twibright Labs [twibright.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @03:35AM
> Assuming constant rate
And there is your error.
Well, your post is full of errors, but that's the easiest one to knock off.
BTW, if you don't think pilipinos have to worry about this kind of shit, you haven't been paying attention to the ridiculous amount of corruption there. The only thing stopping it from happening is a lack of pesos. This kind of surveillance is getting cheaper by the day, and guys like the MILF are even more convenient justifications than alqaeda because they actually do kill a few people every year.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @02:16PM
Where is the president? Why has he failed us? He could put an end to this in a few weeks. Instead he has, if anything circled the wagons.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Sunday July 13 2014, @04:06AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @04:25AM
> What is those 20% they are not storing? Awkward silences during phone calls?
Their own comms and the comms of big banks and other friendlies.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by meisterister on Sunday July 13 2014, @05:17AM
Actual illegal communications.
(May or may not have been) Posted from my K6-2, Athlon XP, or Pentium I/II/III.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by r3dakted on Sunday July 13 2014, @05:56AM
Perhaps the ~20% of international communications that doesn't route through the US?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday July 13 2014, @07:24AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday July 13 2014, @10:01AM
Maybe all the hotline calls where you hang up after hearing the waiting loop music for half an hour?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday July 13 2014, @01:19PM
Not the kind of hotline I call, but granted those I do call don't rely on articulated speech to convey the message
(ducks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @01:34PM
Robodialer calls. Nobody wants to listen to those.
(Score: 2) by hash14 on Sunday July 13 2014, @05:04AM
As much as I'd love to believe this is true, we have a responsibility to make sure that these kinds of statements have reliable evidence. If we simply accept what this guy says without any hard evidence, we'd be as responsible as victims of NSA propaganda for the opposite cause. Yes, clearly this guy is a former insider, but his perspective on the NSA's activities is no more than a few months (approximately?) after Sept. 2011, but so much has gone on since then that it's hard to accept this as a viable insider viewpoint. Plus, statements like 'their objective is total population control' are fairly generalized and difficult to accept, though we may certainly feel that the NSA is nefarious enough to have such aims.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @07:36AM
Yup, it's time for hard evidence. How about we shut down NSA and cow through all their data with a fine comb. I'm sure they have nothing to hide.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Sunday July 13 2014, @09:36AM
Given the zero credibility the NSA has since they have been caught in multiple lies to the people, including when under oath to Congress, I would say we have adequate probable cause right now.
Of course, since the NSA supposedly works for the people, we don't require even probable cause to order them dis-banded or to order them to open 100% of their records to auditing.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday July 13 2014, @07:42PM
Once upon a time Andreotti, high ranked Italian politician, was accused of mafia links. Then somebody testified that he had kissed the top mafia don of the moment (which has a social, not sexual meaning). Then the story was proven false and Andreotti defenders could play the "victim of conspiracy" card. Not that it worked flawlessly in the end.
So this could be a disinfo operation.
OTOH it seems a bit too weak of an accusation. Intelligence agencies are the perfect front for sufficiently powerful people, there must be heaps of dirt among justified self-defense ops. We could have obtained more interesting stuff.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Funny) by ticho on Sunday July 13 2014, @11:04AM
So, what now? Everyone should keep making long calls with nothing but Never Gonna Give You Up looping forever, to starve NSA of their capacity?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 13 2014, @11:17AM
Good thing FB is doing such an excellent job at this already
(Score: 3, Informative) by Pav on Sunday July 13 2014, @12:28PM
...here's the same story from The Guardian [theguardian.com].
If I was contracting for NSA Public Relations Inc I'd link to the most questionable sources possible, and I'm sure RT would hit Joe Sixpacks mental filter.