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The US CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) are warning of a serious multi-state E. Coli O157:H7 outbreak that has sickened 32 people, caused 11 hospitalizations, and caused a case of hemolytic uremic syndrome, a type of kidney failure.
CDC is advising consumers, restaurants, and retailers not to eat, serve, or sell any romaine lettuce as it investigates an outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 infections linked to romaine. Read the investigation announcement: https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-11-18/index.html.
[...] Advice to Consumers, Retailers, and Restaurants:
- CDC is advising that U.S. consumers not eat any romaine lettuce, and retailers and restaurants not serve or sell any, until we learn more about the outbreak. This investigation is ongoing and the advice will be updated as more information is available.
- Consumers who have any type of romaine lettuce in their home should not eat it and should throw it away, even if some of it was eaten and no one has gotten sick.
- This advice includes all types or uses of romaine lettuce, such as whole heads of romaine, hearts of romaine, and bags and boxes of precut lettuce and salad mixes that contain romaine, including baby romaine, spring mix, and Caesar salad.
- If you do not know if the lettuce is romaine or whether a salad mix contains romaine, do not eat it and throw it away.
- Restaurants and retailers should not serve or sell any romaine lettuce, including salads and salad mixes containing romaine.
- People with symptoms of an E. coli infection, such as severe stomach cramps, diarrhea (often bloody), and vomiting, and think you might have gotten sick from eating romaine lettuce, should talk to their doctor and report their illness to the health department.
- This investigation is ongoing and CDC will provide more information as it becomes available.
As a precautionary measure, they also advise that if you had any Romaine lettuce, to clean your refrigerator and any surfaces with soapy water and then disinfect with a bleach solution.
They emphasize that it is not possible to sufficiently clean any Romaine lettuce you may have as the bacteria can lodge in micro crevices in the lettuce.
Yes, there are more risky things in one's life to worry about. On the other hand, giving up some salad and avoiding a few days of bleeding diarrhea seems a fair trade-off to me.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 29 2018, @01:56AM (7 children)
Ok, let's see again what's actually going on [artba.org]. Note that these numbers are higher than current spending:
Gasoline and diesel taxes are already close to what is needed to maintain current highways and bridges (which is used here as a generic term for the entire road system). So the $400+ billion you mentioned earlier? That's for all transportation and water infrastructure (including dams, airports, mass transit systems, etc) not just for roads.
Back at you on that. Is your virtue signaling more important than the future of the US and the world? We need transportation systems. We don't need artificial scarcity imposed by someone's feelgoods.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 02 2018, @12:45AM (6 children)
Virtue signaling is buying a Prius, not shaping the markets (which never have been, and never will be free) to reflect quality of life values of present and future generations.
Here's a label for you: willful cognitive absence - may you continue to wear it with pride.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/24/7408365/
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 02 2018, @01:58AM (5 children)
"Reflect"? I stick with the virtue signaling accusation. Everyone has a flawed understanding of the world and our place in it. But not everyone assumes that someone who disagrees does so because they "don't care in the least about what comes after you're gone". That's the proof of virtue signaling here - weaving a narrative which degenerates into morality play where you play the good guy and critics play the bad guys.
Transportation and energy are unusually important to us because they affect everything, most particularly cost of living and generation of wealth. You proposed to raise transportation costs, making more people poor, with flimsy excuses. It's not going to improve quality of life values for us or for future generations because it makes everything cost more.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 02 2018, @01:52PM (4 children)
You posit that raising net-post tax subsidy transportation costs will make people poor.
I posit that reduction of transportation cost subsidies will reduce tax burdens, preferably on the poor, while simultaneously encouraging choices that result in lower expenditure of energy.
Nobody is listening to either of us, so I'll stop wasting energy on the discussion now.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/24/7408365/
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 03 2018, @02:59AM (3 children)
I see nothing that contradicts my side.
As to your new argument that somehow this will reduce tax burdens, let us keep in mind when you say "reduction of transportation cost subsidies", you mean increase regressive taxes (fuel taxes, road tolls, that sort of thing). Even if somehow we could "let the roads cost what the roads actually cost" without an increase in taxes, that cost is still borne more by the poor since transportation is a higher percentage of their budget. Cognitive dissonance again.
At present. Arguments, good and bad have a way of spreading.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 03 2018, @01:29PM (2 children)
As always.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/24/7408365/
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 03 2018, @02:22PM
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 03 2018, @03:41PM