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The CBC has grabbed a brain and got it moving again!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/cbc-baby-its-cold-reinstate-1.4941087
So the loud minority is starting to be drowned out by the usually silent majority: good for all those who have brains.
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So radio stations are banning "Baby, it's cold outside" because there are too many losers in the world.
My. God., People. Are. Stupid.
It's a really nice Christmas song about a girl wanting to stay with her man for....'cuddles', but she can't because society would call her a 'whore/slut' if she did.
She is wrestling with WANTING to stay but 'having' to leave because society is filled with losers.
Look:
"I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry
My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Well Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some records on while I pour
The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no, sir - Mind if I move a little closer
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ahh, but it's cold outside
C'mon baby
I simply must go - Baby, it's cold outside
The answer is no - Ooh baby, it's cold outside
This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in
So nice and warm -- Look out the window at that storm
My sister will be suspicious - Man, your lips look so delicious
My brother will be there at the door - Waves upon a tropical shore
My maiden aunt's mind is vicious - Gosh your lips look delicious
Well maybe just a cigarette more - Never such a blizzard before
I've got to get home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your coat - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Your eyes are like starlight now
But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Making my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that old out
Ahh, but it's cold outside
Baby it's cold outside"
Read it!
There are no rape drugs in her drink: she's making an excuse for not leaving, just like in the lines:
"But don't you see
There's bound to be talk tomorrow
At least there will be plenty implied
I really can't stay"
She wants to stay, but feels she can't.
Only stupid people could object to this song.
Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid people.
My. God.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:00AM (8 children)
This is obviously fiction and people will read whatever they like into it.
The song is from the second-person perspective, so the intentions of either person can only be interpreted. Other than the tone of voice, there are no other setting cues (e.g. body language or previous interaction history).
Does the woman want to go?
She says she does roughly nine times.
What is in the drink or what kind of drink did the man provide?
She expresses some surprise or skepticism about its content.
Is the man pressuring the woman or is he correctly reading all of her cues?
He is certainly persistent and makes it clear that he will be disappointed if she leaves.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:17AM (6 children)
"This evening has been so very nice.
Well maybe just a half a drink more.
The neighbors might think.
I OUGHT to say no.
At least I'm going to SAY that I tried.
Ahh, but it's cold outside.
This welcome has been so nice and warm.
Well maybe just a cigarette more.
You've really been grand
But don't you see
There's bound to be talk tomorrow
At least there will be plenty implied
I really can't stay
Ahh, but it's cold outside"
Doesn't sound like rape to me: sounds like she's making excuses for why she has to leave but hasn't yet.... because she doesn't WANT to. If she had no fear of what others thought, she WOULD stay without thinking twice about it.
If it was a date rape song, it would be:
No! - but baby it's cold outside
Help! - but baby it's cold outside
Someone help, I think hes drugged me - baby it'll be warm in my bed with you unconscious underneath me.
God, this song was written in, if I remember correctly, 1930ish... She doesn't want a bad rep but DOES want to stay.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:38AM (5 children)
My read on the song is that she enjoys the guy's company but decides that she should leave. The man is opposing her decision and pressuring her to stay.
From what I could gather from the wiki, the song is definitely not about date rape but the man is playing an antagonistic role (Wolf vs. Mouse). The writer wrote the song for his wife, which they would perform together, and it was clearly meant as a nice song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby,_It%27s_Cold_Outside [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:55AM (4 children)
"Ah, but its cold outside."
Doesn't really sound like she's being pressured: sounds like an excuse to stay.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:28AM (3 children)
The man counters every statement she makes about leaving. Whether or not he was being forceful or if the woman conceded to his preference, he is clearly trying to convince her not to leave.
If he wasn't pressuring her at all to stay it would have gone:
"I really can't stay"
"Alright, it was nice."
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:59AM
"I really can't stay"
"Alright, it was nice."
I'm betting her response would be "Maybe just one more cigarette....then I'll leave."
He's saying "I want you to stay" as clearly as she's saying "I want to stay."
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @03:19PM (1 child)
Buying a used car due to persuasion isn't rape. You can't fall for persuasion because you were forced, you must willingly go along with it. Women are thinking beings who are at least as intelligent as men, why do you treat them like children unable to take care of themselves?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Tuesday December 11 2018, @04:22PM
Just thought about adding:
"This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in"
"This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in"
She's come uninvited: she's there because she WANTS to be there.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:38AM
I found this:
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/12/19/13885552/baby-its-cold-outside-feminist-date-rape-romantic [vox.com]
http://bigbutterandeggman.tumblr.com/post/154013148291/teachingwithcoffee-its-time-to-bring-an-end-to [tumblr.com]
We can clearly tell it's a sly joke about the alcohol content of the drink. But according to that source, it's about how low the alcohol content actually is. Also of note is how the song was written just 11 years after the end of alcohol prohibition. Today we could say, "Say, what's in this pipe|joint|spliff|bong?". :^)
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