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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the big-green dept.

Marlboro owner Altria invests $1.8 billion in cannabis company Cronos

Altria hopes pot is the key to help it grow beyond its stagnant cigarette business. Tobacco giant Altira is investing $1.8 billion in Canadian cannabis company Cronos Group. That will give Altria a 45% stake in the company, with an option for Altria to increase its stake to 55% over the next five years. Reports of an Altria-Cronos deal first surfaced earlier this week. The decision by Altria to go ahead with an investment in Cronos shows that Altria is serious about investing in marijuana as a new growth area as sales of traditional cigarettes slow. Altria's stock has fallen nearly 25% this year and the company is expected to report revenue growth of only about 1% this year and in 2019.

[...] Cronos and other cannabis stocks have been thrust into the spotlight in the past few months following the legalization of recreational marijuana in Canada in October, as well as legalized recreational and medical pot in several US states last month. With Democrats winning control of the US House, Congress may finally pass the Farm Bill, which would make it legal to produce hemp and potentially open the door for more products containing cannabidiol, or CBD. Many alcoholic beverage, tobacco and other consumer products companies may want to bet on cannabis. Canadian marijuana company Canopy Growth (CGC) already has received a multibillion dollar investment from Corona owner Constellation Brands (STZ). Coca-Cola (KO) was rumored to be considering an investment in Canadian cannabis company Aurora (ACB). [...] Coke's archrival Pepsi (PEP) hasn't completely ruled out a move into cannabis.

Altria's Canadian Pot Bet Is Really About the U.S.

It's official: Big Tobacco is now a player in the cannabis market. That will change the game.

Previously: Another Major Beermaker is Looking at Ways to Enter the Cannabis Business
Coca-Cola Is Eyeing the Cannabis Market
Peter Thiel's Cannabis Company Was Briefly Worth More Than Twitter
Cannabis Becomes Legal in Canada


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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:34AM (22 children)

    by legont (4179) on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:34AM (#771821)

    Hard to imagine the whole continent stoned, but even harder what it will take to stop it.

    --
    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:48AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:48AM (#771823)

    A police state will do the trick.

    • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday December 09 2018, @06:17AM (7 children)

      by legont (4179) on Sunday December 09 2018, @06:17AM (#771829)

      It takes more than one police officer to stop one offender. Truly mass suppression is very hard to implement. One needs support of if not a majority, but at least some very substantial part of the population. Besides, I can imagine police brands of "Marlboro" as well.

      --
      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by coolgopher on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:01AM (6 children)

        by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:01AM (#771834)

        You don't need the _support_ of a large portion of the population, only enough _fear_ to keep them in line.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:18PM (5 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:18PM (#771920) Journal

          You don't need the _support_ of a large portion of the population, only enough _fear_ to keep them in line.

          In other words, support of a large portion of the population. That's what "enough fear" means.

          • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Tuesday December 11 2018, @12:50AM (4 children)

            by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @12:50AM (#772681)

            compliance != support

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:45AM (3 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:45AM (#772729) Journal

              compliance != support

              I disagree.

              • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Tuesday December 11 2018, @03:26AM (2 children)

                by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @03:26AM (#772738)

                support: to promote the interests or cause of
                compliance: a disposition to yield to others

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 11 2018, @01:40PM (1 child)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @01:40PM (#772846) Journal
                  In an authoritarian government, to yield to the authority promotes the interests of the authority.
                  • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Tuesday December 11 2018, @09:18PM

                    by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @09:18PM (#773089)

                    "support" is still associated with active agreement, versus "compliance" which is typically seen as passive or even reluctant acceptance.

                    Anyway, at this point we're splitting hairs *shrug*

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Whoever on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:03AM (7 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:03AM (#771836) Journal

    Prohibition was a failure, just like the "War on Drugs".

    Prohibition of cannabis was always driven by racism. The drug of choice for whites was traditionally alcohol, which is probably more dangerous than cannabis.

    Finally, the ridiculous laws against marijuana are going away. Those tax revenues are too enticing!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:18PM (#771945)

      Re: "Tax revenues are too enticing!"
      Tax-n-regulate is how we got in this mess in the first place.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937 [wikipedia.org]
      It was a prohibition masquerading as a tax. This is explained in the Whitebread speech. You should read it, very entertaining.

      As for cannabis tax revenues, I love this warning:
      https://mjbizdaily.com/washington-state-cannabis-supply-hits-new-low-spurs-calls-change/#comment-211373 [mjbizdaily.com]

      Don't let greed interfere with personal liberty.

    • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:49PM (5 children)

      by legont (4179) on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:49PM (#771981)

      Prohibition was not a failure; very far from it. Before it all Americans starting at 2 years old or earlier drunk (they started with apple "juice" than switched to apple jack, then all the way). Check the history books. While alcohol is permitted now, it is tightly regulated thanks to prohibition building the acceptance.

      I don't think cannabis prohibition was designed as racial thing either. It was designed to stop mostly white rebellion of 60s. Whites got it while blacks for various reasons did not. At this point the war on drugs became racial.

      I totally agree that cannabis should be legal, but it has to be tightly regulated. What we are going to have now is cannabis wild west for some time. This worries me. I am especially worried about how they would stop it - prohibition 3.0 - when it inevitably comes.

      --
      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:13PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:13PM (#771995)

        fuck you, you authoritarian piece of shit.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:20PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:20PM (#772059)

          You forgot racist, ableist and sexist.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @02:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @02:53AM (#772215)

        Prohibition in the USA did not create laws in the... entire rest of the world about alcohol. Kids used to drink beer because it was safer than drinking the water.

        Regardless, saving "the kids" is about 23rd on the list of relevant arguments for/against prohibition.

        Top 2 are:

        No. 1 reason: it takes money away from criminal cartels.

        No. 2 reason: you won't die from a fentanyl overdose (unless you want to).

        I concede all other points - sure, let's say it causes "teh gay" and "teh cancer" and "teh divorces". OK granted. You still lose.

      • (Score: 2) by dry on Monday December 10 2018, @03:25AM

        by dry (223) on Monday December 10 2018, @03:25AM (#772225) Journal

        Cannabis prohibition did start out as racial, those Mexicans used it, just like cocaine was black people and opium was oriental. When it really took off was when it threatened Hearst s new pulp paper industry as a machine had been invented to separate the fiber cheaply and hemp made better cheap paper then trees. The chemical industries didn't like it either, hemp seed oil was big business until prohibition and the promises of the cellulose left over after the fiber was separated had many promising uses.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:50AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:50AM (#772732) Journal

        Before it all Americans starting at 2 years old or earlier drunk (they started with apple "juice" than switched to apple jack, then all the way).

        They also started with untreated water supplies.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:53AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @07:53AM (#771845)

    Mission accomplished.

    --China

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @12:01PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @12:01PM (#771889)

      Check Fan Bingbing's bank account balance for proof of this

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:48PM

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @01:48PM (#771910) Journal

      Yup.... we're all high, and China takes over.

      Most. intelligent. species. on. Earth.

      --
      --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
  • (Score: 3, Informative) by crafoo on Sunday December 09 2018, @10:24PM (1 child)

    by crafoo (6639) on Sunday December 09 2018, @10:24PM (#772109)

    meh. being stoned isn't all that great. many people want to get out and do something with the day. some CBD to sleep or a minor buzz during a vacation sunset would be pretty cool though.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @02:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @02:57AM (#772218)

      Agreed. Here in LA, I can go to the store from 8am to 10pm any day of the week and buy a known quantity of CBD and THC. If I want to see how they affect me, I can find out myself using known doses at a time I choose and in a manner I feel comfortable with. Sure beats doing "buckets" as a kid and God only knows what was going to happen.