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posted by martyb on Monday December 10 2018, @01:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the unexpected-causes dept.

In a landmark study involving over a million students, it appears that the reason boys dominate girls in STEM fields is not that they are better than girls at it (the reverse seems to be true) but, perversely, that gender differences are lower in non-STEM fields.

About the STEM grades, which are often abused as an explanation:

A classroom with more variable grades indicates a bigger gap between high and low performing students, and greater male variability could result in boys outnumbering girls at the top and bottom of the class.

“Greater male variability is an old idea that people have used to claim that there will always be more male geniuses – and fools – in society,” O’Dea says.

The team found that on average, girls’ grades were higher than boys’, and girls’ grades were less variable than boys’.

But girls' and boys' variability were much closer in non-STEM fields.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @10:31AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @10:31AM (#772305)

    Women actively avoid any interest or occupation that draws large numbers of unattractive, immature, socially awkward, powerless men into their orbit. They prefer their predators to be competent, ambitious, exciting and worth being afraid of (as opposed to just being a shoe-scraper nuisance) so they can collect some high-value gossip to enhance their standing in their peer group. (Not that there's anything wtong with that.)

    Nobody ever wrote a serious romance novel about a hunky permanent bottom-rung individual-contributor IT guy fixing the heroine's PowerPoint presentation. ("Ohh, please fondle my breast just like you used my mouse, click on me baby":.... Seriously?)

    If all but the top 10% most attractive, ambitious, mature guys disappeared from STEM and were guaranteed to stay out, the gender balnce would instantly reverse to majority-female.

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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @11:06AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @11:06AM (#772313)

    Women avoid STEM because of guys like the one who wrote the above.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 10 2018, @11:31AM (2 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday December 10 2018, @11:31AM (#772319) Homepage Journal

      No, women avoid STEM way before they ever have any idea by whom its workforce is populated. Most of them just don't like it and you're going to run up against that fact no matter how badly you want equal gender representation. There's not a damned thing you can do about it except make the men as unhappy with it as a career choice as women are.

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      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @06:38PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @06:38PM (#772477)

        Ah yes, The Mighty Buzztard resonating with the incels. Down with women! Equality for anyone else is a persecution of white males everywhere!!!

        If you dislike that characterization maybe don't be such a reeeeeeetard and say shit like "There's not a damned thing you can do about it except make the men as unhappy with it as a career choice as women are."

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 11 2018, @04:09AM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday December 11 2018, @04:09AM (#772748) Homepage Journal

          Bzzzzt! I enjoy the company of women. I in fact believe they should be free to do whatever the fuck they're capable of and feel like doing. I do not believe they should be forced to conform to the current feminist ideology against their natural, cultural, and personal inclinations though. Short of using violence to do so, they're going to do what they like and tell you to go fuck yourself. If you want more women in STEM, try recruiting from gender studies.

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  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday December 10 2018, @02:50PM

    by acid andy (1683) on Monday December 10 2018, @02:50PM (#772380) Homepage Journal

    Way to reinforce negative nerd stereotypes! You can only be sexually attractive if you're a brain-dead sales guy, MBA or a violent thug, amirite? Naturally disciplines that require a lot of time doing mental and written work may have a greater number of individuals that became physically unfit or socially inexperienced but they're not all like that and I think the cultural stereotyping has had a much bigger effect on these preconceptions than the reality. After that it becomes self-perpetuating because people believe the stereotypes and ostracize the nerds.

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