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Journal by aristarchus

Yet another aristarchus submission has met it's appointed fate. Nothing surprising, but, there was a non-blank rationale field, highly unusual!

We're sorry, your submission "This online comic shows how pick-up artists morphed into the alt-right" was declined for the following reason:
All hail the Supreme Gentleman! -takyon

The editors felt it inappropriate for them to correct the issue themselves. Please feel free to correct the issue yourself and resubmit.

Of course, I think the entire point was that these are no Gentleman, and the Red Pillars need to get themselves over to The Art of Manliness website. And apparenty, this includes one of our more prolific editors? Cause for pause, Soylentils! What are we part of, here!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday January 19 2019, @06:38AM (8 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Saturday January 19 2019, @06:38AM (#788578) Journal
    Congratulations good sir on sucking more mod points out of the system!

    "Just more half-assed feminist propaganda."

    I'm going to have to give it the benefit of the doubt and contradict you.

    It was at least 5/8 assed.

    "If they don't understand why men do and say the things they do, and they most certainly do not, they don't need to be opining on them."

    I'm not convinced the thesis here is entirely spurious.

    Oversimplified, underdocumented, ok.

    But PUA is a real thing, and there does exist a minority of men who portray these negative stereotypes, and it's far from implausible to me that there's a link between PUA and the alt-right.

    A funny cartoon asserting it exists is no substitute for journalism documenting that at least for 2 or 3 people, such a link exists, however.
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 19 2019, @07:11AM (4 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 19 2019, @07:11AM (#788583) Homepage Journal

    Any links that might exist are no more relevant than the fact that both Mao and Gandhi enjoyed their atmospheric oxygen levels in the 20% neighborhood. This is some bottom of the barrel nonsense. If you're going to craft a fictional conspiracy, at least craft a good one.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by khallow on Sunday January 20 2019, @07:17PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 20 2019, @07:17PM (#789110) Journal

    But PUA is a real thing, and there does exist a minority of men who portray these negative stereotypes, and it's far from implausible to me that there's a link between PUA and the alt-right.

    How about feminism? I hear a lot of complaints from that quarter for decades about how there are no good men left. Sounds like they're turning up a bunch of PUAs consistently (here, I'll use the term "pick up artist" liberally as anyone who is willing to act to pursue women for short term sex rather than in the strict sense of following the rules of some book). Similarly, I gather the #metoo movement turned up a bunch of powerful male PUAs who were nominally pro-feminist in public, while far from it in private.

    If anything, hypocrisy and deception sounds like it's the fuel that PUAs run on. While that may be part of the alt-right thing, it's not going to generate any mileage sex-wise for the PUA since the movement is vastly unpopular among a large portion of women (supposedly only 20% [theatlantic.com] of the US alt-right is female, for example). Meanwhile aping popular women's belief systems and code words is far more likely to get somewhere. I doubt, for example, that any PUA of talent would be caught exhibiting "toxic masculinity" while on the prowl.

    As for the comic, well drawn but really tenuous connections even for a conspiracy yarn diagram. For example, I think there's a case to be made that feminism above has a problem with toxic masculinity too. Does that mean it's the same as the marketing of PUA techniques and the alt-right movement - the equating which the comic made? I guess I wouldn't be able to come up with a list of people who supposedly are feminist and alt-right at the same time (though others [medium.com] give it a try).

    I think what's going on is that the artist is intellectually trying to lump multiple bad ideas into one dung ball. It makes for a simpler worldview, but at a cost. I see a similar thing go on with the Khazar Jew troll. Jews are the old bad guys and Muslims are the new bad guys. So what is more natural than to suddenly discover that all those Jews are actually Muslim fake Jews? Mind you, it's complete bullshit, but at least the hating is simplified, turning an O(2) problem into a much simpler O(1) problem. /sarc

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 20 2019, @10:25PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 20 2019, @10:25PM (#789159)

      OMG!!! Khallow is one, too!!

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 21 2019, @12:48AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 21 2019, @12:48AM (#789269) Journal
        And you're so surprised, right? For my next act, I'll be a Samurai Rabbit from the 18th century.