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Emergency declared near Portland for measles outbreak in anti-vaccine hotspot
Health officials in Clark County, Washington have declared a public health emergency for a measles outbreak in an area with a high rate of unvaccinated children.
[...] Nearly eight percent of children in Clark County were exempt from standard vaccination for the 2017-2018 school year, according to state records reported by the Washington Post. Breaking down that eight percent, about seven percent of kids had personal or religious exemptions and the remaining one percent or so had medical exemptions. Factoring in the rest of the population, the county is below the 92 percent to 94 percent range some experts consider required to prevent the spread of highly contagious diseases such as measles.
[...] “It’s really awful and really tragic and totally preventable,” Peter J. Hotez told the Post. Hotez is a professor of pediatrics and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. “Portland is a total train wreck when it comes to vaccine rates,” he added.
[...] Correction: This article has been updated to correct the state in which Clark County resides. It is in Washington State, not Oregon.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Bot on Thursday January 24 2019, @10:48AM (31 children)
That not being vaccinated against measles has been the default here in Italy at least until the 90s. You recall the news about the death of Italian schoolchildren due to measles parotitis varicella? neither do I. So it was either mundane, but how come mundane things did not happen in my school? spent years in it you know, or not happening at all.
Of course now the situation is different because: 1. compared to back in the day, children now have the stamina of zombies. 2. getting measles meant getting immunized, children could only catch it between themselves, but now children can infect adults and this is a problem.
Also, I would investigate the actual rate of vaccination instead of letting the media spout it. Sometimes outbreaks occured in regularly vaccinated population, because the illness is alive and life naturally selects solutions when faced with the problem of spreading.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:03AM (10 children)
Another moronic comment. But you can't fix stupid.
Why don't we go back to the world of polio? Only kids will be able to catch it too and only the weak will develop problems. At least by your idiotic reasoning.
Fuck. Living in a world that allows you too good of a standard of living and you forget how fucked up 100 years life used to be. All you "remember" is your glorified imagination of the past that you never lived in. Careful, or you'll start living your life in straw+clay+shit houses again. But it happened in Italy before a few times like that. Maybe you are overdue for another Dark Ages again.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:13AM (6 children)
About 1/3 of doctors in the US have seen a disease that looks exactly like polio, but isn't.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/the-mysterious-polio-like-disease-affecting-american-kids/381869/ [theatlantic.com]
(Score: 3, Touché) by kazzie on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:44AM (1 child)
1/3 of Child Neurologists (at a particular conference), but interesting, nonetheless.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:53AM
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:35PM (3 children)
That you've never seen one is due to outbreaks being preceded by several days of I think itching.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:45PM (2 children)
I was just a kid, and didn't keep a journal or anything - but I think there was a day or two of headache/nausea/lethargy, in the middle of which the spots began to appear. The spots don't itch at first, but after several hours, or a day, then they start itching. And, you can't go back to school til the spots are gone, and Mom won't let you out of the house because you're "sick", so all the kids drive Mother bug-fuck crazy. And, at that point, you learn the real danger: Mother may perform a VERY late term abortion on your ass!
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @06:23PM (1 child)
Was this a peer reviewed journal?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @07:51PM
I peered into his window, and yep, there was a journal on the table.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Bot on Thursday January 24 2019, @12:56PM
> Why don't we go back to the world of polio?
Why don't we go back to hunt and gatherers?
My question is related to your post as much as your post is related to mine.
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(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @02:33PM (1 child)
Ignorance must be bliss if you think that the measles are a major issue for the population. The vaccine for measles causes more injuries than the naturally occurring disease. How come in the 60's nobody was worried about the measles, ie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zwNZOg8mE [youtube.com] . You are gonna whine about polio too? Polio can only be transmitted anal to oral, so I dunno maybe people should wash their hands or maybe we should be more careful about what to do with our waste water, eh? If the guy you are slamming is moronic, how is it that Italy not having the measles vaccine forced on people and the entire boot hasn't died?
8% not vaccinated for measles and they are the cause for the other 92% to get the measles, really? You can clan all day long that it takes the herd immunity, but if you have your magic stick to keep away the dreaded mild diseases, like measles and chicken pox, then you should be all protected and the not vaccinated are the ones at risk only, that is if your magic stick actually works, which is a dubious claim.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:12PM
Great video. The reality distortion field these miseducated/misinformed people live in is ridiculous. And they go around calling everyone else idiots...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by pe1rxq on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:57AM (15 children)
If you think measles is mundane because you never heard about a serious case you are an ignorant idiot.
Unfortunately for you there is no known cure for being an idiot.
But the ignorant part can be fixed if you really want to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @12:01PM (13 children)
FTFY:
Just pointing out how stupid your "argument" is.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Thursday January 24 2019, @01:47PM (12 children)
> Unfortunately for you there is no known cure for being an idiot.
Yes there is. It's called reality, and certain aspects of it are over 99% fatal. Play Chicken or Russian Roulette frequently, and the odds will catch up with you. That's what Darwin Awards are for.
People have forgotten the horrors of the childhood illnesses. Everyone who grew up with that was eager to avail themselves of vaccination for their kids when they became available. The only one I suffered through was the chicken pox, only because there was no vaccine for it when I was a kid. Chicken pox is about the least dangerous of the childhood diseases, but the victim is still in for a miserable week of feeling horribly ill. Day 4 was the worst. That's when the rash is itchiest, but you must not yield to the temptation to scratch, unless you don't care about sporting scars from the disease for the rest of your life.
Measles can be much worse. Leaves you fragile for several months. Makes you more vulnerable to other diseases. If pneumonia strikes while you have measles, your chance of dying jumps to 30%.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @02:50PM
Just corrected this false "reality" you live in for someone the other day on here. Most parents did not consider measles a big issue, they considered it "generally an unproblematic illness" and were apathetic towards "just another childhood disease":
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=29667&page=1&cid=788566#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=29667&page=1&cid=788579#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @02:59PM (8 children)
Even in 1959, the percent of people getting pneumonia and/or dying after getting measles was about 5x less than the percent of people who currently come down with meningitis or encephalitis after the mmr vaccine:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20789272 [nih.gov]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12415036 [nih.gov]
So the issue you are worried about is actually less common than possible vaccine injury, and would be considered statistical noise by that paper I cited.
(Score: 5, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:38PM (3 children)
From that very paper you cite, and which you seem to think supports your contention that the MMR vaccine is possibly more dangerous than suffering those diseases:
> We did not identify any association between MMR vaccination and encephalitis, aseptic meningitis, or autism.
Those 712 out of 535,544 cases happened around the same time as the MMR vaccine was given. But correlation is not causation. That rate is about equal to the rates that those infections occur during other periods of a childhood.
Maybe you overlooked that part of the paper. Or maybe you did see it, and deliberately ignored it. You know what is terribly unhealthy? Cherry picking your facts.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @04:07PM
I didn't overlook anything:
How do you think a pneumonia death is attributed to measles? The person gets pneumonia while or soon after they get measles...
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday January 28 2019, @02:01PM (1 child)
Kids get measles. And kids get so many ear infections -- measles or no measles. But when somebody gets measles AND gets an ear infection. The Vaccine People say, "oh look, secondary infections as a result of the measles virus, so horrible!" They call it result. But, how do they know? I don't think they know. And, if they knew -- Antibiotic. They could say, if your kid has the measles. Give the Antibiotic. So there are no problems with the Ear. And in the Ear. So easy. But, they don't want to say that. They want Vaccine. And it's a lot of shots, dozens of shots coming all at once. Into tiny children. Very hard thing, very rough on their tiny bodies. And so many times, autism -- many problems. But the Vaccine People say, "oh, correlation, not result!" They don't want to say result when bad things happen after the Shots. Total U-turn!!!
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday January 29 2019, @04:32PM
I have this urge to indulge in a little spurious logic. It's catching, you know, catching like a horrible disease.
You know what the thing about ear infections is? That Proctor and Gamble is evil. They sell tissue. And blowing your nose on tissues can force mucus into your ear. And Proctor and Gamble doesn't care. Why, for all we know, they get kickbacks from Big Pharma for the increase in antibiotic sales for dealing with ear infections!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @06:13PM (3 children)
You also forgot to look at the number of deaths from traffic accidents after mmr vaccines. Mmr is obviously incredibly deadly, Q.E.D.
-eyeroll-
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24 2019, @06:20PM (2 children)
Where do you see me attribute any causality? The only info is person got measles (vaccine) then soon after they got pneumonia (brain damage).
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Friday January 25 2019, @01:25AM (1 child)
The only thing that would be interesting here is if the rate of brain injury / autism / pneumonia / Tourette's / sore finger differs between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population at the same age. This is the simplest argument for proving that the MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism - the autism rates are the same between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 25 2019, @01:54AM
1) I assure you it does differ and would be detectable with sufficient sample size/etc. Whether that difference is interesting is an entirely other question.
2) I'm ignoring the autism because that is longer term. The pneumonia/encephalitis/meningitis appear quickly, the association in time with the measles/vaccination strengthens the relationship.
But anyway, there has never been a blinded measles vaccine RCT so better info on this will probably never be available. That is why I presented the info as-is in the form of correlations.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:58PM
Actually - I grew up with measles, mumps, chicken pox, and rheumatoid fever. I mean, personally - I got all four of those. I seriously have never met anyone who suffered serious complications from any of that. Uhhhh, yeah, I guess it happened, from time to time. But, also, from time to time, people suffer complications from the vaccinations. I share the opinion that vaccinations are mandatory, because SOMEONE MAKES MONEY OFF OF THEM!!
No, you don't get to compare measles with polio. I knew several people who were seriously and permanently debilitated by polio. Probably everyone my age met a couple people who were crippled by polio. When you've met them, you don't forget them.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Friday January 25 2019, @12:34AM
Yeah, looking forward to that shingles vaccine here too.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Thursday January 24 2019, @04:54PM
To be fair, for those with predominantly European (or probably Asian) ancestry measles is a minor disease compared to polio, cholera, typhoid, smallpox, etc. Most people get through it with no lasting permanent effects. The only really common danger is to pregnant women who are likely to give birth to a deformed child. https://www.google.com/search?q=measles+pregnancy+birth+defects [google.com]
OTOH, Polynesians, Native Americans, and several other groups that were isolated from central Asia may find it deadly.
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(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Thursday January 24 2019, @12:13PM
Those diodes on your left hand side? They were recycled from a previous bot that had its shot - you may experience some pains as you age, but not measles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday January 24 2019, @03:33PM
Heroin addicts are unable to eat much other than sugar. It's quite common for them to eat naught but ice cream. My lady dines only on artificially fruit juice concentrate. Doubtlessly she gets lots of Vitamin C but that does her no good as White Blood Cells require protein.
Vitamin B12 is required to transcribe DNA to Protein. It's widely regarded as necessary only for production of Red Blood Cells, but that's because they have the shortest lifetime of any human cell.
"Sarah" - not her real name - will happily eat real food when I specifically give it to her. I left her quite a lot of truly tasty and nutritious food at work three or four days ago but even so, she has not picked it up yet.
She agreed that she would welcome my visit while she was "working" last Friday night but we were unable to connect as she kept getting dates all night long, each far away from wherever we at first agreed to meet. In the end, she advised me to go to my office so I wouldn't be stuck in the cold all night after the trains stopped running.
She's at risk of death from exposure as "Getting Well" usually leads her to pass out. To shoot up out in the cold usually wakes her up, but one time she woke up in the back of an ambulance after an EMT saved her life with Narcan.
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(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 24 2019, @06:23PM
Why am I not surprised that you're an anti-vaxxer on top of everything else? Jesus, just when I thought you could not possibly sink any lower...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 24 2019, @11:37PM
That's from the Wikipedia article on Measles, so millions died before widespread vaccination.
Also:
From this piece, which indicates that Italy is vaccinating for measles. [vaxopedia.org]
This is a good idea. Vaccination is good for everyone.