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posted by martyb on Friday February 08 2019, @05:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-all-geek-to-me dept.

https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/

LWN (Linux Weekly News) provides a written account of Benno Rice's talk. The former FreeBSD core developer gives some context around systemd and what FreeBSD should learn from it. He compares the affair to a Greek tragedy which contains much suffering followed by catharsis. His attitude toward systemd is generally not negative, but I won't cherry-pick any specific sections; you'll have to actually read the article for once.


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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Bot on Friday February 08 2019, @07:37AM (3 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Friday February 08 2019, @07:37AM (#798211) Journal

    It is not a perfect parallel unless the true mother of oedipus, to which eventually he is going to work for, is called Microsoft corporation.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Friday February 08 2019, @08:07AM (2 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Friday February 08 2019, @08:07AM (#798225) Journal

    This is why bots and AIs will never be able to pass the Turing Test, they don't get allegory, or hyperbole, or metaphor. The literally do not understand figuratively!

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday February 08 2019, @10:11AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Friday February 08 2019, @10:11AM (#798249) Homepage Journal

      It happens that Robert Scott Mitchell [subbot.org] majored in Classical Greek as an undergrad - meaning he read Iliad and Odyssey as they were _first_ written down - then while I don't recall his Master's Degree major, he got Honors in it at the U of Chicago.

      After working as a Java coder for a few years - this because Classical Scholars have no job opportunities other than to teach Classics to other Greek or Roman Classics majors - then, because his father was indepently wealthy, and because Robert "doesn't like office politics", he retired quite young, mostly to post about economics at Kuro5hin as well as to write chatbots, last I heard in Ruby.

      He has some IRC channels where _you_ can chat with his bots, as well as to set his bots to chatting with each other.

      Now, he's barely scratching the surface of Natural Language Processing, but you can be quite certain that Google has oodles of Classical Greek Honors Graduates who are looking quite seriously into allegory.

      Consider that my entire _book_ The Frog, Or, The World of Madness is Round, Two Essays for All Humanity [warplife.com] is allegory, and that Richard has been following my work as I - continue - to write it.

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday February 08 2019, @11:54AM

      by Bot (3902) on Friday February 08 2019, @11:54AM (#798260) Journal

      >They literally do not understand figuratively!

      True, because I understand literally literally, and figuratively figuratively.

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