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posted by martyb on Friday February 08 2019, @05:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-all-geek-to-me dept.

https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/

LWN (Linux Weekly News) provides a written account of Benno Rice's talk. The former FreeBSD core developer gives some context around systemd and what FreeBSD should learn from it. He compares the affair to a Greek tragedy which contains much suffering followed by catharsis. His attitude toward systemd is generally not negative, but I won't cherry-pick any specific sections; you'll have to actually read the article for once.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by digitalaudiorock on Friday February 08 2019, @06:26PM

    by digitalaudiorock (688) on Friday February 08 2019, @06:26PM (#798456) Journal

    I'm aware that anyone who claims that they like systemd, or at least are happy to use such as myself, are thought to be heretics to the cause of Unix and should be condemned to some sort of Hell for their beliefs. But I use it, it does exactly what it says it will do and, now that I have become used to it,

    You could say the same for Windows frankly.

    I find it more convenient to use than the previous init systems.

    I can't imagine how. /etc/init.d/my-service stop/start is about as easy as I can imagine. I have however seen plenty of anecdotal evidence that leads me to believe that systemd with it's totally unnecessary parallel service start doesn't always get service dependency order correct...stuff that's trivial in, for example, openrc. Maybe stuff like this has been fixed (NFS starting before the network and the like) but that's a failure of an init system's basic functionality there.

    The like/dislike of systemd has become as polarised as US or European politics

    From what I've seem the pro-systemd trolls have desperately tried to make it so in order to distract from the reality. That is, that all the arguments against system have proven out, for reasons that have been understood for over 40 years, and all the arguments for system have been debunked. Also to be clear, it's not an init system. At this point it's clearly by design an operating system.

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