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How to Avoid Systemd?

posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the Boot-him?-I-just-met-him! dept.

jbernardo writes:

"Having had several issues with systemd, and really not liking the philosophy behind it, I am looking into alternatives. I really prefer something that follows the Unix philosophy of using small, focused, and independent tools, with a clear interface. Unfortunately, my favourite distro, Arch Linux, is very much pro-systemd, and a discussion of alternatives is liable to get you banned for a month from their forums. There is an effort to support openrc, but it is still in its infancy and without much support.

So, what are the alternatives, besides Gentoo? Preferably binary... I'd rather have something like arch, with quick updates, cutting edge, but I've already used a lot in the past Mandrake, RedHat, SourceMage, Debian, Kubuntu, and so on, so the package format or the package management differences don't scare me."

[ED Note: I'm imagining FreeBSD sitting in the room with the all the Linux distros he mentioned being utterly ignored like Canada in Hetalia.]

 
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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by melikamp on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:10PM

    by melikamp (1886) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:10PM (#7364) Journal

    (Deblobbed [freeslack.net]) Slackware user here. As we speak, the official Slackware forum is being filled with very fiery systemd posts, with not one but two threads filled with love, hate, and bile, with love clearly in the minority. Long-time users and contributors are guessing that Slackware won't be switching in the foreseeable future (or ever, unless it is clearly shown to be technically advantageous), although everything is possible with time.

    Slackware may not be cutting-edge enough for you, but then again, it looks like it's the cutting edge init that is driving you away, so may be it's worth trying a more conservative OS?

    And then there's Debian, of course, which we know won't drop the classic init for years and years.

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  • (Score: 1) by jbernardo on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:25PM

    by jbernardo (300) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:25PM (#7382)

    I guess I will take a look at slackware again. Looks like cutting edge doesn't always equate with "the best and latest", so maybe it is time to choose a more conservative distro.

  • (Score: 1) by Curupira on Wednesday February 26 2014, @05:43PM

    by Curupira (1984) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @05:43PM (#7420)
    I wouldn't be that sure.... they've decided to adopt systemd [lwn.net], starting on the Jessie release.

    • (Score: 1) by HiThere on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:21PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:21PM (#7447) Journal

      I think he was implying that the current stable will be maintained for a long time. Debian has a history of being slow to move the testing (currently Jessie) branch to stable.

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    • (Score: 1) by melikamp on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:24PM

      by melikamp (1886) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:24PM (#7449) Journal
      It's going to be the new default (until they vote again). I didn't hear anything about dropping support for sysvinit, but that may be just my ignorance talking.