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Review site Rotten Tomatoes is instituting some changes, leading many to believe it's responding to the recent controversy over the site's Captain Marvel page. But Paul Yanover, president of Fandango, which owns the site, told CNET that's not the whole story.
In case you were snapped away by Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War, and thus missed the recent controversy, here's a recap. Captain Marvel doesn't come out until March 8, but users were already leaving negative comments about the film on Rotten Tomatoes, a process dubbed "review bombing." Many recent comments seemed to come from those who are angry at star Brie Larson.
The movie review site has removed users' ability to leave reviews or to indicate they are not interested in seeing a film [EDIT: before it comes out].
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:34PM (3 children)
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if 75% of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:54PM (2 children)
Yeah, but the other 75% couldn't care less.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:28PM (1 child)
The numbers check out.
Clearly this must be the work of manbearpig!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @10:23AM
He is giving 150% today
E for effort!
Consistency is only a virtue if you are not a screwup.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:47PM (4 children)
Doesn’t matter who your lead character is. Same story, same formula. Hell, I’ll even take this nationalistic China flick over it
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_wandering_earth [rottentomatoes.com]
Just for something different
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:11PM (3 children)
That's fine. You can have that opinion about any genre if you like (it's not like rom-coms aren't extremely predictable as well). But that doesn't say anything about the quality of the movie, which is what RottenTomatoes is trying to get a handle on.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:35PM (1 child)
The rating that was removed was showing the percentage of people that want or don't want to see it. It has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, since it hasn't been seen yet. There can be any number of reasons why someone doesn't want to see the movie, like not liking the genre, trailer, subject matter, or plot line. Maybe someone just doesn't like the time period, style, or clothing in the movie. It could be not liking a particular actor as an actor. Maybe they hated the previous movie, or just the studio/creators in general. In this case it could have been not liking the actor as a person, or maybe even getting tired of movies being made to push a particular agenda instead of focusing on a good story. The reason doesn't matter, either someone wants or doesn't want to see the movie. The rating system should have stayed.
I'm not saying a movie can't cover controversial topics, just don't force an agenda into a movie where it doesn't doesn't fit. Hidden Figures is a great movie that covers an important topic, and it was done right. Strange Days is another movie that handled it right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @08:57PM
The article specifically mentions comments, so it was much more than a simple numeric ranking.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:48PM
you're such a fucking suck ass.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by isostatic on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:49PM (6 children)
The movie review site has removed users' ability to leave reviews or to indicate they are not interested in seeing a film.
Nobody has seen the film yet. Reviewing only happens once you've seen it
Anyone "reviewing" a film they haven't seen should simply have their reviews silently removed across the site. They still get to see them, but nobody else is bothered by them.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:09PM
That, and it shouldn't affect the film's ratings on the site.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 5, Informative) by slinches on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:26PM (1 child)
This is disingenuous. No one left a "review" at all. There was never even an option to do so. There was a section of the site that has since been removed where people could indicate whether they wanted to see a movie or not and post an explanation of their choice. A large number of people were upset by some statements from the lead actor and the public made their opinions known about it by indicating they don't want to see the movie. The site then removed that section because they didn't like the opinions being expressed there.
Trying to call what happened "review bombing" or "trolling" is an attempt to mislead the public about what happened and why the change was made.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday March 01 2019, @03:28PM
That's right. It's rhetorical sleight-of-hand attempting to get control of a narrative that has escaped them.
In addition to the points you made, there are many other facts that cross-up the distilled hatred and victim culture that Disney, Brie Larson, and the punditocracy are pushing on the public discourse. First, Alita Battle Angel, in the theaters now, with a female protagonist, is doing just fine. Second, there are many, many action films led by female protagonists that have done very well at the box office and with fans; here are a few: the Tomb Raider franchise, the Underworld franchise, the Hunger Games franchise, the Resident Evil franchise, and Wonder Woman, to name a few. So if the audiences for action movies are so replete with misogyny, then why have those movies all done so well? Third, audiences are still sore about how Disney just killed the beloved Star Wars universe with the same kind of behavior that's coming out of Captain Marvel; there's a looming sense that the Mouse is about to stab the fans in the back again (to teach them a LESSON!!!)
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:34PM
From what I understand, the removed feature wasn't a "review" feature, no matter what all the spin is. It was an "interest" feature, as in "Do you want to see this movie?" There were just a lot of people saying "No", so it got removed.
(Score: 4, Touché) by sjames on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:33PM (1 child)
So if someone asks me if I am interested in seeing a movie that is not out yet, why or why not, I should wait until I see it to tell them?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @02:31PM
According to this debacle? Yes.
Welcome to the new age.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Absolutely.Geek on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:15PM (9 children)
The MCU movies have been either good or great for superhero films; they are not high art but occasionally tackle difficult subjects (PTSD in Ironman 3 comes to mind). I doubt that Captain Marvel will be bad and certainly not terrible.
It will give some important info leading into Avengers End Game.
I have never understood people who are so insecure that they have to have other people validate their opinions by trying to convince others to believe the same stupid shit as them; see many trolls, religious door knockers, political parties selling a "message" rather then the truth.
Don't trust the police or the government - Shihad: My mind's sedate.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:25PM
If you don't give money to Captain Disney, you're insecure!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:17PM (7 children)
Indeed, great analogy and great description of Marvels Hero shtick! The 75% who voted on RT to the effect that they weren't interested in watching this movie are analogous to closing the front door on religious doorknockers.
(Score: 2) by Absolutely.Geek on Thursday February 28 2019, @10:36PM (6 children)
I agree I thought the HERo thing was a bit heavy handed in the trailer....but that didn't put me off anymore then Black Panther has a "GASP" black guy in the lead roll. But they didn't do a hey this movie is called "BLACK panther"
Don't trust the police or the government - Shihad: My mind's sedate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:05PM (4 children)
The lead from Black Panther wasn't inserting his foot in his mouth every five minutes with racially charged comments. Here we have an unpopular comic book character being played by a disliked actress who appears to believe virtue signaling and grievance grifting are substitutes for charisma. Ms Larson clearly doesn't want to hear it from white males, so...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Absolutely.Geek on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:27PM (3 children)
I'm not talking about the actor; it is the trailer; I really don't care what actors do or say....as long as they play the part well. I don't watch TV or follow what these people do outside of the movies....why would I care.
Don't trust the police or the government - Shihad: My mind's sedate.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @12:24AM
We shouldn't and we should separate the artist from the art. [dailywire.com] Unfortunately we are in the middle of a culture war and it's a safe bet the politics of the movie align with Larson's. The phrase "Get woke, go broke" isn't a social comment or mantra, it's a call to arms. You may be fine with a minority [squarespace.com] (f 0.1 & 5.1) hijacking our shared culture for their political ends but many of us have had enough of this divisive nonsense and have no problem employing "progressive" tactics against "progressives".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @07:35AM (1 child)
Really? You really want to be completely ignorant on issues outside the movie?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @10:19AM
On a movie review site? Yes.
On a geek forum? No.
let her rip
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @10:14AM
Errr dude that is teh working / publicity title
It actually is "Black Lives Matter - The Movie (Black Panther edition)"
I know I know Black Kitty sounds cooler but get with the pc program here
(Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:55PM (3 children)
"The only thing worse than being talked about, is *not* being talked about".
I wouldn't put it past Marvel to have staged this for publicity.
Doesn't matter - I gonna see the movie no matter what anyone says.
Not sure I care enough to know if anyone else likes it...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:50PM (2 children)
That's a theory. [youtube.com] But why would Disney knowingly push gender politics into their biggest franchise after the Ghostbusters / Last Jedi backlash? And (as the linked video points out) if misogyny is the issue, why is the RT audience score for Alita at 94%? [rottentomatoes.com]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:53PM (1 child)
these themes being pushed by these propaganda firms are not the result of national identity politics. the national identity politics is part of the global plan for the NWO. an independent and self sufficient goyim/whitey is not part of that plan.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @10:00PM
"an independent and self sufficient goyim/whitey is not part of that plan"
lolololol
Hopefully the more moderate Republicans around here are starting to see the forest for the trees. There hasn't been an "independent and self sufficient" person for a VERY long time. Try telling yourselves more lies to make you feel superior and persecuted! Sounds like you are a white supremacist that just HATES the multi-cultural aspect of the US.
(Score: 2) by Hyper on Saturday March 02 2019, @06:00AM
If they had not removed the score I probably would not have noticed or cared [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Monday March 04 2019, @08:49PM
Why allow reviews of a movie that has not yet been released and therefore nobody has seen yet? That seems pretty poor design in the first place. No way to prevent review bombing AFTER release. But just like here on SN, you can't leave comments on a post until after the post has appeared.