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posted by martyb on Wednesday March 06 2019, @07:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-free-is-it,-anyway? dept.

Someone shared on Trisquel's forums a direct email communication with Purism revealing the way the company avoids being fully transparent about the fact that their device does not offer better privacy when used *as a phone* — it has privacy advantages only when the phone functionality is completely turned off, in which case the questioner claims it is nothing more than a pocket (or even stationary) PC.

Source:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/librem5-and-why-i-am-no-longer-interested

 
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @08:44PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @08:44PM (#810860)

    I do not see anyone else offering a better alternative.

    That guy is a moron who does not understand todays reality.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by MostCynical on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:33PM

    by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:33PM (#810893) Journal

    He wants perfection, delivered cheaply, by someone else, yesterday

    Sounds like a typical project manager.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:49PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:49PM (#810903)

    I don't see anyone offering a worse alternative either... It's always the same offer: the proprietary GSM modem controls the rest of the unit. But you get to pick the color of the phone!!!

    If compromising on privacy/security is not an option, or anything serious is at stake (e.g. political activism or journalism in a sensitive area), it is advised to avoid using a telephony-enabled device at all. -- https://replicant.us/freedom-privacy-security-issues.php [replicant.us]

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by exaeta on Thursday March 07 2019, @12:06AM (1 child)

      by exaeta (6957) on Thursday March 07 2019, @12:06AM (#810931) Homepage Journal
      The entire point is that the modem does not have control of your entire operating system, just the communications with your cell tower. So with this approach, if your app encrypts data, the modem cannot backdoor the app by bypassing the operating system. In other words, it removes the ability of cellular providers to inject aribitrary code into kernel space and takes away their root access. Sure, the modem still isn't open source, but by limiting what it's physically connected too we can prevent it from compromising the rest of the device.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @09:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @09:34AM (#811088)

        Wake me up when they get the FSF RYF certification or even some other credible party's declaration.

        For now all we have is their soothing words and slick marketing, much like any android or ios turd.

        They might be in it for real but all we have now is hot air.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday March 07 2019, @12:33AM

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday March 07 2019, @12:33AM (#810941) Journal

    I do not see anyone else offering a better alternative.

    But is good to know the limits of the 'best available today', is it not?

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  • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:21AM

    by darkfeline (1030) on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:21AM (#811057) Homepage

    Just because your placebo is better than that other placebo that causes cancer doesn't mean you can advertise your placebo as a cure.

    Just because other phones actively violate your privacy doesn't mean you can advertise your phone which doesn't protect your privacy as a phone that protects your privacy.

    "I do not see anyone else offering a better alternative." is not a valid argument against "This phone does not do what it is advertised to do".

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @11:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @11:20AM (#811104)

    He actually understands things much better than all those who would simply click "Preorder now" or think that "there is nothing better, so let's buy the least worst and dream of privacy".