Hipsters and millennials, please learn what irony means. Most of the ways you use it, they're just you being a pretentious little shit not irony. This is irony (and also funny as a motherfucker).
1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance
2a(1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play — called also dramatic irony, tragic irony
3 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning — called also Socratic irony
Now that is out of the way. Let the trollfest commence!
Who said anything about it changing now? That was mostly so they can't say they haven't been informed when I call them dumbfucks for not knowing the meaning of their favorite word.
Advertisers especially have become very specialized in using words with no meaning what so-ever... A perfect example is the telecoms use of the word 'Unlimited'
-- For the NSA :
Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, initiators, main charge, nuclear charge
I know that TMB likes his irony like he likes his rot-iron fences, pre-Madonna and good for his self of steam. But what do we axpect when football players no longer stand at a tension, and people take it for granite that the precedent is a crook? I am not waiting with baited breath and biting my time till American gets to a better end. It's a tough road to hoe, and not everyone can tow the line, but it seems American English is held together with bailing wire and duck tape, and bare in mind that we should not get boggled down in grammer nazism and just cease the day and try to avoid cognitive dissidence.
Oh, and, it does not beg the question [grammarist.com], nor is it something of a damp squid [telegraph.co.uk]. If you let the illiterate define language by their misuse, your talk gets all ironedy.
There's a problem with your logic there. If the rest of us insist on only using it correctly, it doesn't change and they just look like morons who need vocabulary lessons.
Not really, hipsterism is a short-lived flavor of conformism even among most of its converts. Which is to say even other hipsters can't stand hipsters.
Look, you can go on counting upwards if you like but I dig the 90s and as far as I'm concerned we're staying here and just getting more experienced at them.
The one everyone but hipsters seem to understand. You see, it's okay for a minority to change the language if their culture is cool and everyone wants a piece of it. If, however, you're a bunch of self-aggrandizing little douchebags that nobody can stand, you're shit out of luck.
Look: The word of the day is, "Resourceful." And before I explain to the others what that means, you should know this:
Mexicans are dumb but resourceful. They're like Perl hackers in real-life. Perl is a language which allows any adaptation to any asshole who can speak to that adaptation. You don't just speak to that pussy, son, you make a vow to it. That's why Soylentnews exists in the first-place.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20 2019, @12:15PM
irony (noun) [merriam-webster.com]:
Now that is out of the way. Let the trollfest commence!
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday March 20 2019, @01:50PM (1 child)
People have been complaining about "irony" misuse for years. What makes you think the trajectory is going to change now?
Now that's ironic.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday March 20 2019, @09:41PM
Who said anything about it changing now? That was mostly so they can't say they haven't been informed when I call them dumbfucks for not knowing the meaning of their favorite word.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday March 20 2019, @02:15PM (2 children)
Psychoses are all that's left now. Mad Max is on the horizon.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday March 20 2019, @03:46PM (1 child)
Satire is alive and well, it's demise has been greatly exaggerated.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday March 20 2019, @03:52PM
Well, you're right in a way. We are living it this very moment. It ceases to be satirical. Somewhere in all this we have insert "chutzpah"
Anyway, from his link, it's nice to see people put wasted materials to good use.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Disagree) by Whoever on Wednesday March 20 2019, @03:03PM (19 children)
Words have meanings, and, in English, those meanings are defined by use, the result of which is that meanings change over time.
Maybe you should shout at the kids to get off your lawn one more time!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Wednesday March 20 2019, @03:22PM (2 children)
Words have many meanings. Pick the one that suits your mood of the day, and run with it. That appears to be how it's done now.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Wednesday March 20 2019, @06:49PM
The current redefinition of "literally" has been an astounding display of both ignorance and tolerance of ignorance.
(Score: 2) by archfeld on Thursday March 28 2019, @10:33PM
http://www.planckmachine.com/stairway-to-heaven-led-zeppelin-lyrics-meaning/ [planckmachine.com]
Advertisers especially have become very specialized in using words with no meaning what so-ever...
A perfect example is the telecoms use of the word 'Unlimited'
For the NSA : Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, initiators, main charge, nuclear charge
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20 2019, @05:11PM (3 children)
Wow, and me without an "Ironic" moderation option.
(Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Wednesday March 20 2019, @08:27PM (2 children)
I know that TMB likes his irony like he likes his rot-iron fences, pre-Madonna and good for his self of steam. But what do we axpect when football players no longer stand at a tension, and people take it for granite that the precedent is a crook? I am not waiting with baited breath and biting my time till American gets to a better end. It's a tough road to hoe, and not everyone can tow the line, but it seems American English is held together with bailing wire and duck tape, and bare in mind that we should not get boggled down in grammer nazism and just cease the day and try to avoid cognitive dissidence.
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/browse-eggcorns/ [lascribe.net]
Oh, and, it does not beg the question [grammarist.com], nor is it something of a damp squid [telegraph.co.uk]. If you let the illiterate define language by their misuse, your talk gets all ironedy.
(Score: 2) by NewNic on Thursday March 21 2019, @12:22AM (1 child)
I think you missed something there. Should it not be "a tuft rowed to ho"?
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday March 21 2019, @01:01AM
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't lead a horticulture.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday March 20 2019, @09:48PM (11 children)
There's a problem with your logic there. If the rest of us insist on only using it correctly, it doesn't change and they just look like morons who need vocabulary lessons.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Whoever on Thursday March 21 2019, @02:44AM (1 child)
That depends on the size of the population group "the rest of us".
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 21 2019, @03:47AM
Not really, hipsterism is a short-lived flavor of conformism even among most of its converts. Which is to say even other hipsters can't stand hipsters.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 21 2019, @05:02AM (5 children)
:-) If you want to fossilize the language, write it down! You won't care if nobody can understand it two hundred years from now.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 21 2019, @05:22AM (4 children)
Wrong assessment. I just want to send the current trend into the bin with mood rings, pet rocks, and pastel leisure suits.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 21 2019, @05:38AM (3 children)
Everybody hates "current trends". This one is no worse than any other. You just feel out of place (born 150 years too late)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 21 2019, @05:45AM (2 children)
Nah, only seventy or so. I think I would have enjoyed the 20s quite a bit.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 22 2019, @07:30PM (1 child)
Uhh... I know you love perl and all, but it's not the 90's anymore TMB.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday March 23 2019, @02:40AM
Look, you can go on counting upwards if you like but I dig the 90s and as far as I'm concerned we're staying here and just getting more experienced at them.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 23 2019, @01:19AM (2 children)
At one point, there was no "correctly" because the language didn't exist. All languages are arbitrary.
Anyway, which version of 'correct' are you looking for? 18th century English? 19th?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday March 23 2019, @02:42AM (1 child)
The one everyone but hipsters seem to understand. You see, it's okay for a minority to change the language if their culture is cool and everyone wants a piece of it. If, however, you're a bunch of self-aggrandizing little douchebags that nobody can stand, you're shit out of luck.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 25 2019, @05:58PM
Title of this journal
heh
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20 2019, @04:46PM
I mean really, iron stealing irony? Sure thing dad!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20 2019, @04:51PM
These youngin's literally need to learn what irony means. And in order to help them, I offer this definition [youtube.com] by Atlantic Marmoset.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday March 23 2019, @03:36AM
Look: The word of the day is, "Resourceful." And before I explain to the others what that means, you should know this:
Mexicans are dumb but resourceful. They're like Perl hackers in real-life. Perl is a language which allows any adaptation to any asshole who can speak to that adaptation. You don't just speak to that pussy, son, you make a vow to it. That's why Soylentnews exists in the first-place.