When I started my relationship hacking series, I said that I would post both the good and the bad...
I'm not really sure where to start on this journal entry, so I'll just lay it out here. Over the last while (a couple months, maybe), the romantic spark between my wife and I has practically disappeared. We still love each other a lot, we are kind to each other, we are still best friends... Everything is great except the spark is missing -- or at least quite muted.
I'm not quite sure what the cause is. I think that one major factor is that we are tired. My daughter is difficult at times (she's a 2 year old...) and we are tired. It's like we are working two jobs. I work my normal 9-5 job then I go home for the evening shift which involves making/cleaning dinner, a little play time with my daughter, then bedtime. That's all done sometime after 8:00, and by then we are both exhausted. We don't have the energy left to spend quality time together. We'll either watch TV together or she'll watch TV while I sit at my computer.
Meanwhile, I'm dating two different women and seeing them almost once a week each. Those 1-2 nights a week that I'm out is my only time that I'm not either at work or with my daughter. Most Saturdays I'm looking after my daughter alone, and Sunday is the only day we actually spend together as a family. Most of the time on those Sundays we are too tired to plan anything fun and end up catching up on household chores. My wife has a couple weekdays partially to herself. On Mondays Grandma takes my daughter for a few hours, and on Tuesdays she's in daycare so my wife has pretty much the whole day to herself. I guess I'm trying to justify those 1-2 nights per week when I'm gone -- My wife has two weekdays, I have two weeknights. I dunno...
Anyways, that's where we are at. We actually have a date night planned for Saturday night. That's a pretty special treat. We practically never have time away from our daughter. It's the 3rd time since she was born. We are going to get massages and then go out for a steak dinner. We have the entire night alone. Hopefully we can rekindle some of the spark.
I don't know if this is a result of the open relationship or not. On one hand, having a kid means our energy is focused there. By the time that job is done, we are exhausted. On the other hand, my wife sees me going on regular dates with two different women where she is lucky to get a date with me every 6 months. That's hardly fair.
One thing that I think needs to change is that my wife an I need to have more date nights. We need to find a babysitter. We need to carve out quality time together. I also think that her working almost every Saturday is taking it's toll. To me, it feels like I work 6 days a week, and on the 7th we spend it doing chores. We do need the extra money though.
I also don't know if this is a normal thing for new parents. Even before I had my daughter, the romantic connection between my wife and I would ebb and flow. It doesn't seem unreasonable that with the additional stress of raising a child that the romance suffers a bit. I've heard countless stories of deadbedrooms after children.
When it comes to my dating, I obviously really enjoy it. It's MY time. It's time when I can be my own person. Make my own memories and have my own experiences. It's the only time I have that is not either at work or at home. Is it selfish? Maybe, but it's a source of happiness. It gives me the energy and motivation to give 110% effort when I'm at home. I feel confident and attractive -- something that I have struggled with. I honestly think that if it weren't for the dating that I would be struggling with depression.
So that's where I'm at right now. I'd love to hear about your experience with keeping romance alive with children. Do you have tips? Am I being selfish with my dating (probably... but I feel like it's keeping me sane)?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:51PM (4 children)
Study after study find that people overestimate the contribution of financial and material wealth to happiness and underestimate the contribution of time (e.g. longer commute for less rent, more expensive car/house paid with more work hours). What do you need the money for and is it worth what you are paying for it (being exhausted all the time, harm to your marriage, unhappiness)?
How much do you and your wife get paid per hour? If either wage is more than what you'd pay a housekeeper, babysitter, meal kit service/meal delivery service/prep cook, laundry service, etc.; then it does not make economic sense in addition to it not making psychological sense for you to continuing to do chores that are disproportionately affecting your happiness compared to work or material goods. It may even be worth going into a reasonable amount of debt (if it is infeasible to cut your combined income, expenses, or savings) to get through your daughter's more time-consuming years.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @04:25PM (3 children)
The solution is clear: live-in maid with benefits.
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(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday April 03 2019, @02:25AM (2 children)
Recently had some 18/19 year old Mormon girls come to the door trying to sell us Mormon Jesus and getting our own planets. The wife asked me if we could convert and get another wife to take care of the chores around the house. Sadly mormonism doesn't work that way anymore from what I understand.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday April 03 2019, @02:58AM (1 child)
I expect that if you really put in the research, you could find some website that could facilitate getting a nice, stable live-in maid to do work around the house for free rent and some pay. Maybe you can get sexual gratification while you're at it, but you have to handle that carefully before you make Snow life choices.
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(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday April 03 2019, @04:12AM
Never worth it. Wife and I were eachothers first partners and I plan to go to the grave having known only her. I'm sure screwing other chick's would be a hell of a hoot but part of marriage to me is the journey. I would like to get to the end of my life knowing that I beat the infidelity stats, beat the divorce stats, raised kids who see the nuclear family as a good thing, and know that I have kept my wife happy over the entire journey.
Weird that I have these ideas when I was not raised religious and am not religious currently, but whatever. Growing up I saw dysfunctional families all around me and yet mine was fine. Some richer and some poorer, but the key difference was whether their parents genuinely cared about the other's well being.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam