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posted by LaminatorX on Thursday February 27 2014, @12:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the This-sounds-like-a-job-for-Florida-Man dept.

Xerxes writes:

"A Florida woman who has been living off the grid has had her home declared 'Unsanitary' and has until March to connect her off-the-grid home to the city water system, or face eviction."

[ED Note: Ordinances such as this are not uncommon. My own father once had a property condemned on this basis while he was in the midst of a billing dispute with a utility.]

 
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by SuperCharlie on Thursday February 27 2014, @12:47AM

    by SuperCharlie (2939) on Thursday February 27 2014, @12:47AM (#7679)

    I homesteaded for 4 years, it was incredibly difficult. For a large percentage of the time, we had no piped water and used various ways to provide our own. On the crapper side, we had a camp toilet for a while and a septic system where we simply dumped it. Its not pretty, but it is surely doable in a sanitary manner. The real issue isnt the crapper, strangely enough, it is the kitchen sink water. You think you could just dump that.. you would be very wrong. Overall, it is almost as bad as the crapper. So all the sanitary issues really revolve around septic and not water supply.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @04:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @04:24AM (#7776)

    [quote] it is almost as bad as the crapper [/quote]

    Yeah tell me about that. Last time I had to use a screwdriver to chop my shit up in small enough pieces, so I could flush it with a can of stale beer from the floor. Usually I'm able to piss it away though.

  • (Score: 2) by evilviper on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:17AM

    by evilviper (1760) on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:17AM (#7855) Homepage Journal

    On the crapper side, we had a camp toilet for a while and a septic system where we simply dumped it. Its not pretty, but it is surely doable

    Composting toilets do a vastly better job. The fluids evaporate (with the help of a fan) out the vent, and then the solids are quickly broken down by the starter culture, into something you can throw into your garden.

    The shiny "composting toilets" being sold seem ridiculously expensive for some reason, but really do little more than a bucket with a 12v exhaust fan.

    --
    Hydrogen cyanide is a delicious and necessary part of the human diet.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:35AM (#7866)

      Of course if you're taking any sort of medication (or any of your visitors does), that will also generally end up in the compost. What this means for your garden is left as exercise for the reader.

      • (Score: 1) by evilviper on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:38AM

        by evilviper (1760) on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:38AM (#7895) Homepage Journal

        It would be a completely useless medication that goes straight through your system... It can't DO anything for you that way.

        Instead, it's usually just trace quantities of the drug, and sometimes some interesting byproducts after your body metabolizes it.

        I know someone who is taking some severely toxic medication... It has vastly more than just a few stickers on it, warning that you've become a biological weapon to others you come in contact with... It comes with detailed paperwork you have to acknowledge before you can get the stuff. I don't expect they'll forget to mention it, when you show them to your (obviously) composting toilet.

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        Hydrogen cyanide is a delicious and necessary part of the human diet.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:57PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:57PM (#8165)

      Composting toilets do a vastly better job.
      Yup. Fewer resources.

      The fluids evaporate
      The bowels do a good job of removing the water. The word you are looking for is "sublime".
      Ever notice how pet poop just disappears over time? 95 percent of poop is aromatics.
      These folks [alternet.org], on an island, found out that you don't need water for toilets.

      ...and, yup, there could be nasty pathogens in poop. (Gardeners are specifically warned against using cat poop.) That could make the 5 percent that is the remaining compost unsuitable for use on food plants, so just use it on potted decorative plants and you're always golden.

      -- gewg_

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Thursday February 27 2014, @03:22PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday February 27 2014, @03:22PM (#7997)

    What's wrong with just dumping the wastewater into the septic system? That's how most rural dwellers do it, and it seems to work fine.

    The only problem with septic systems, AFAICT, is you need a fair amount of land to support them, which is why they don't work too well in the city: house lots even in the suburbs aren't generally large enough there. They also need to be cleaned out occasionally, something you never have to bother with in a sewer system.