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posted by janrinok on Saturday May 25 2019, @09:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the bells-and-whistles dept.

AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen Is The Most Exciting Processor Launch In A Decade

There have been a fair amount of rumors surrounding AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen 'Zen 2′ processors over the last few weeks covering specifications, performance and pricing. I wrote just yesterday about the latest rumor of a supposed 16-core mainstream Ryzen CPU obtaining a huge Cinebench score and a few days ago I discussed why AMD might be considering getting rid of its low-end Threadripper CPUs too. However, leaks and rumors aside, there are far more important and genuine reasons to be excited by 3rd Gen Ryzen and what AMD will be announcing next week at Computex and after that at E3 in June.

[...] AMD could finally match or even beat Intel with Zen 2 and 3rd Gen Ryzen as lots of these issues are rumored to be solved. Memory speeds will apparently increase significantly and given the impact we've seen from relatively small boosts in memory speed, this could well see 3rd Gen Ryzen CPUs offer sizeable performance gains. Thankfully, memory prices are in AMD's favor too with kits of 16GB 3,600MHz memory retailing for less than $125 - when just before Christmas that same kit would have cost you nearly $260.

[...] The latest rumor of a Cinebench score of such a CPU puts this 16-core monster on par with Intel's Core i9-9980XE – a $2,000 CPU that requires Intel's high-end desktop motherboards, yet rumors of the supposed Ryzen 9 3850X put that CPU as retailing for less than $600. While we might not see those lofty 5GHz numbers from that CPU, they might appear lower down the stack with a 12-core model, which is likely to be a favorite for general purpose users and gamers alike.

[...] The fact is, that 1st and 2nd Gen Ryzen didn't deal a death blow to Intel. It was still faster in some areas and while its CPUs and platforms usually cost more, that doesn't always matter, especially if the differences are mere 10′s of dollars and you'll be using your PC for the next few years, reaping the benefits. However, with 3rd Gen Ryzen, all the signs are that we could finally be looking at reviewers like myself recommending AMD's CPUs across the board, and not just for certain workloads.

Could it really be that AMD's offerings will be faster, with more cores, more IPC, lower energy consumption, and cheaper all at once across vast swaths of the CPU market?

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  • (Score: 2) by driverless on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:09AM (3 children)

    by driverless (4770) on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:09AM (#847763)

    AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen Is The Most Exciting Processor Launch In A Decade

    In a decade? Sheesh, anything to get those clicks. Even if it's a significant jump on Intel, it's at most "the most exciting processor launch in a year or two", and the same goes for Intel launches. These things are incremental improvements on their predecessors, not revolutionary new designs like when Core2 supplanted P4 and similar.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:18AM (#847766)

    Youre wrong, this could be amd's chiplets overtaking intel in every category. The yields with chiplets are insane because you can mix and match and bin. So even crappy ones still get sold.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:23AM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Sunday May 26 2019, @02:23AM (#847772) Journal

    You are potentially getting a 150% multithreaded performance increase from Ryzen 7 1800X to 16-core (Ryzen 9?), both launching at $500.

    It's possible that there are no quad-cores in the Ryzen 3000 lineup at all, with 6 cores being the mimimum at around $99 and beating last year's 8-core Ryzen 7 2700X in some cases: []

    It also looks like AMD will match Intel on single threaded performance, something that didn't happen with the original Ryzen launch. So for the first time in many years, AMD's chips will simply be the best option in almost all respects, not just performance/$ (AC does criticize it for not supporting quad channel memory).

    If every good rumor about the launch is true, then it is probably the most exciting launch in 5 years. Maybe a decade. Certainly it comes at just the right time to hurt Intel, as Intel is still struggling to move product lines to "10nm" [].

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    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:37AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Sunday May 26 2019, @04:37AM (#847817)

      That would be good news. Single thread performance is 90% of what I care about.

      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek