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posted by martyb on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the /me-want dept.

At Computex 2019 in Taipei, AMD CEO Lisa Su gave a keynote presentation announcing the first "7nm" Navi GPU and Ryzen 3000-series CPUs. All of the products will support PCI Express 4.0.

Contrary to recent reports, AMD says that the Navi microarchitecture is not based on Graphics Core Next (GCN), but rather a new "RDNA" macroarchitecture ('R' for Radeon), although the extent of the difference is not clear. There is also no conflict with Nvidia's naming scheme; the 5000-series naming is a reference to the company's 50th anniversary.

AMD claims that Navi GPUs will have 25% better performance/clock and 50% better performance/Watt vs. Vega GPUs. AMD Radeon RX 5700 is the first "7nm" Navi GPU to be announced. It was compared with Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2070, with the RX 5700 outperforming the RTX 2070 by 10% in the AMD-favorable game Strange Brigade. Pricing and other launch details will be revealed on June 10.

AMD also announced the first five Ryzen 3000-series CPUs, all of which will be released on July 7:

CPUCores / ThreadsFrequencyTDPPrice
Ryzen 9 3900X12 / 243.8 - 4.6 GHz105 W$499
Ryzen 7 3800X8 / 163.9 - 4.5 GHz105 W$399
Ryzen 7 3700X8 / 163.6 - 4.4 GHz65 W$329
Ryzen 5 3600X6 / 123.8 - 4.4 GHz95 W$249
Ryzen 5 36006 / 123.6 - 4.2 GHz65 W$199

The Ryzen 9 3900X is the only CPU in the list using two core chiplets, each with 6 of 8 cores enabled. AMD has held back on releasing a 16-core monster for now. AMD compared the Ryzen 9 3900X to the $1,189 Intel Core i9-9920X, the Ryzen 7 3800X to the $499 Intel Core i9-9900K, and the Ryzen 7 3700X to the Intel Core i7-9700K, with the AMD chips outperforming the Intel chips in certain single and multi-threaded benchmarks (wait for the reviews before drawing any definitive conclusions). All five of the processors will come with a bundled cooler, as seen in this list.

Not to be outdone, Intel has announced the Intel Core i9-9900KS, a selectively binned 8-core processor that can boost to 5.0 GHz on all cores. The catch? TDP and pricing are currently unknown (i9-9900K launched at $488, 95W TDP), and Tom's Hardware reports that the higher clock speed does not apply to AVX workloads (although they will get a boost). The CPU does not come with a bundled cooler.

Intel also teased Gen11 integrated graphics performance, which will be included with "10nm" Ice Lake-U APUs. Their comparison shows a significant improvement over Gen9 graphics (there is no "Gen10") and a slight edge over AMD's top mobile processor, the Ryzen 7 3700U.

Previously: "Review" of AMD's 3rd Gen Ryzen Rumors Ahead of Launch

Related: Intel Announces "Sunny Cove", Gen11 Graphics, Discrete Graphics Brand Name, 3D Packaging, and More
Intel Promises "10nm" Chips by the End of 2019, and More
Intel Details Lakefield CPU SoC With 3D Packaging and Big/Small Core Configuration
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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:02AM (6 children)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:02AM (#848375) Journal

    AMD Ryzen 9 CPU With 16 Zen 2 Core Overclocked & Tested in Cinebench, Faster Than i9-9980XE – 7nm Ryzen Threadripper HEDT CPUs Still Happening []

    According to this info, the 16-core chip isn't impossible to make (memory bandwidth limited) or anything, and is in fact in existence. It might still need testing and won't get released until later.

    There was some speculation that Threadripper 3 would be delayed or skipped. Nope, we'll see it this year, possibly including up to 64 cores.

    Third-Gen Ryzen Not Fully Backward Compatible, X570 Chipset Doesn't Support First-Gen Models, AMD Explains []

    I don't think anybody is going to be buying a new X570 motherboard just to run a 1st gen Ryzen on it. However, some older motherboards won't support 3rd gen Ryzens, so do some research first. Hopefully, PC Part Picker [] will be able to prevent any tragic motherboard+CPU combos.

    Intel Replies to AMD’s Demo: Platinum 9242 Based 48 Core 2S Beats AMD’s 64 Core 2S []

    Intel and AMD squabbling over benchmarks. Given Intel's sketchy numbers [] in the last year, everything from them (and probably AMD too) should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Also, if clients are running the latest security patches or disabling hyperthreading [], performance could take a big hit.

    Intel Follows AMD's Lead on Full Memory Encryption []

    Intel announced a new patchset for the next version of the Linux kernel that will enable Multi-Key Total Memory Encryption (MKTME). The feature is an extension of Intel’s Total Memory Encryption that brings support for encrypting multiple pages in memory with different encryption keys (up to 64 in total).

    Intel's upcoming chip platforms will allow its processors to use MKTME to encrypt the full memory for the first time. Applications will be able to encrypt their data with new keys generated in the operating system's kernel, which means the data will be kept private and isolated from other third-party applications or other parts of the operating system.

    The Most Innovative Motherboard Concept Ever – The ASUS Prime Utopia []

    Wew, a motherboard with an OLED display in it.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:13AM (5 children)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:13AM (#848376) Journal []

    The AdoredTV leaked pricing, naming, and release dates were way off the mark, but some details do stand out:

    Predicted: Ryzen 5 3600 / 8 cores / 3.6 - 4.4 GHz / 65 W
    ...Actual: Ryzen 7 3700X / 8 cores / 3.6 - 4.4 GHz / 65 W

    Predicted: Ryzen 7 3700 / 12 cores / 3.8 - 4.6 GHz / 95 W
    ...Actual: Ryzen 9 3900X / 12 cores / 3.8 - 4.6 GHz / 105 W

    One conclusion that we can take away from this launch is that for the first time in a long time, Intel is the one not exerting competitive pressure on its competitor. AMD is sandbagging. Hopefully, AMD makes a lot of money, pays off debts, etc. If Intel does try to respond, AMD can pull out the 16-core Ryzen, 64-core Threadripper, and various smaller Ryzens.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:33AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:33AM (#848384)
      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:45AM (3 children)

        by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 28 2019, @02:45AM (#848388) Journal

        That's basically what I implied. The only thing I'm wary of is: "hold off the 16 core cpus (for threadripper?)". Because Threadripper 3 would likely be 32-64 cores so 16 core would not encroach on it. And with AMD using the same chiplets for Ryzen, Threadripper, and Epyc product families, I think if there was a 8/8 chiplet shortage, they would be allocated to Epyc instead of the niche Threadripper.

        I guess you could say that AMD is trying to sell off 16-core Threadripper 1/2 first (TR 1950X is already $500), but I don't know that the overlap is there since they use different motherboards and there is the difference with dual/quad channel memory.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 28 2019, @03:26AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 28 2019, @03:26AM (#848397)

          I mean basically there is no need for threadripper since their high end mainstream beats HEDT intel for about 1/3 the price...