The economics of reuse is debatable all up and down the scale, from plastic grocery bags vs reusable totes all the way up through rocket engines.
Personally, I think the automotive industry has been selling bad tech for 40 years making new automobiles more and more disposable - straight economics would seem to point toward refurbishment as better for the environment AND the owners' pocketbooks.
However, if the SSMEs were ground-up redesigned to be single use instead of multiple use, they could likely save a significant sounding amount per engine - but the engineering hours and validation testing required to do that for a manned mission rated engine probably cost more than the differential cost of hundreds, maybe thousands of engines - not to mention the program schedule impacts.
SpaceX (hopefully, eventually) will launch a manned mission using reusable engines -- but new, not reused, on the manned launch.
I tend to believe that SpaceX has shown or is close to showing the economics of re-use. The cheap launch prices. But then, we really don't know if they are making money.
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But then, we really don't know if they are making money.
EBIDTA is, AFAIK, positive for those guys, but EBIDTA + "extravagant Research and Development expenses" is always negative for those guys, and the financial markets just keep tossing money at them, so they'll keep doing it.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday June 10 2019, @06:31PM (4 children)
I meant the SSMEs not SRBs.
Nevertheless, you definitely make a good point.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday June 10 2019, @08:06PM (3 children)
The economics of reuse is debatable all up and down the scale, from plastic grocery bags vs reusable totes all the way up through rocket engines.
Personally, I think the automotive industry has been selling bad tech for 40 years making new automobiles more and more disposable - straight economics would seem to point toward refurbishment as better for the environment AND the owners' pocketbooks.
However, if the SSMEs were ground-up redesigned to be single use instead of multiple use, they could likely save a significant sounding amount per engine - but the engineering hours and validation testing required to do that for a manned mission rated engine probably cost more than the differential cost of hundreds, maybe thousands of engines - not to mention the program schedule impacts.
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday June 10 2019, @09:08PM (2 children)
SpaceX (hopefully, eventually) will launch a manned mission using reusable engines -- but new, not reused, on the manned launch.
I tend to believe that SpaceX has shown or is close to showing the economics of re-use. The cheap launch prices. But then, we really don't know if they are making money.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday July 02 2019, @03:45PM (1 child)
EBIDTA is, AFAIK, positive for those guys, but EBIDTA + "extravagant Research and Development expenses" is always negative for those guys, and the financial markets just keep tossing money at them, so they'll keep doing it.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday July 02 2019, @04:35PM
They must think it a worthwhile investment.
Maybe a new accounting abbreviation for the extravagant research should be created.
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