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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the super-hyper-ultra-turbo dept.

The GeForce RTX 2070 Super & RTX 2060 Super Review: Smaller Numbers, Bigger Performance

NVIDIA is launching a mid-generation kicker for their mid-to-high-end video card lineup in the form of their GeForce RTX 20 series Super cards. Based on the same family of Turing GPUs as the original GeForce RTX 20 series cards, these new Super cards – all suffixed Super, appropriately enough – come with new configurations and new clockspeeds. They are, essentially, NVIDIA's 2019 card family for the $399+ video card market.

When they are released on July 9th, the GeForce RTX 20 series Super cards are going to be sharing store shelves with the rest of the GeForce RTX 20 series cards. Some cards like the RTX 2080 and RTX 2070 are set to go away, while other cards like the RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2060 will remain on the market as-is. In practice, it's probably best to think of the new cards as NVIDIA executing as either a price cut or a spec bump – depending on if you see the glass as half-empty or half-full – all without meaningfully changing their price tiers.

In terms of performance, the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 Super cards aren't going to bring anything new to the table. In fact if we're being blunt, the RTX 2070 Super is basically a slightly slower RTX 2080, and the RTX 2060 Super may as well be the RTX 2070. So instead, what has changed is the price that these performance levels are available at, and ultimately the performance-per-dollar ratios in parts of NVIDIA's lineup. The performance of NVIDIA's former $699 and $499 cards will now be available for $499 and $399, respectively. This leaves the vanilla RTX 2060 to hold the line at $349, and the upcoming RTX 2080 Super to fill the $699 spot. Which means if you're in the $400-$700 market for video cards, your options are about to get noticeably faster.

Also at Tom's Hardware, The Verge, and Ars Technica.

Previously: Nvidia Announces RTX 2080 Ti, 2080, and 2070 GPUs, Claims 25x Increase in Ray-Tracing Performance
Nvidia Announces RTX 2060 GPU
AMD and Nvidia's Latest GPUs Are Expensive and Unappealing

Related: AMD and Intel at Computex 2019: First Ryzen 3000-Series CPUs and Navi GPU Announced
AMD Details Three Navi GPUs and First Mainstream 16-Core CPU


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:11PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:11PM (#862948)

    To me these are all still 2x more expensive than I want to pay to upgrade from a GTX 1060. AMD's are too. Why are GPUs so pricey?

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:18PM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:18PM (#862949) Journal

    Why are GPUs so pricey?

    Because people will pay it

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:19PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:19PM (#862951) Journal

    Expensive memory, AMD not providing effective competition, probably some other reasons.

    If Intel jumps in with discrete graphics cards [pcgamesn.com] next year, it will become a three-way and that might help.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 03 2019, @11:27PM (#862958)

    Used to be outsized demand allowed price increases instead of additional production runs. That was during the great cryptocurrency mining rush, before the IRS caught on.

  • (Score: 2) by ledow on Thursday July 04 2019, @11:57AM

    by ledow (5567) on Thursday July 04 2019, @11:57AM (#863106) Homepage

    How often do you buy a GPU lately?

    That's why.

    You're holding off because they are expensive, they are expensive because people are holding off. What you have is good enough, so you're letting it run.

    Pretty much what used to be a "specialised" item that required many upgrades to stay on the cutting edge is now just commodity, and for not-very-much you can have a card that runs all the games you want and can still run games in a few years from now. How often are you then going to upgrade it?

    So they make the commodity stuff cheap, throw it in every PC, and anything more is specialist and they'll charge you for it.

    I bet nobody ever thought they'd make money from GPUs for smartphones and laptops, but almost everyone has one now. That's where their profit lies.

    Your specialist cards are like the GPU usage of CAD/CAM people of old... so niche that they can make you pay through the nose for the extra despite everyone having a commodity 3D card in their computer.

    I'm still running on a nVidia M chip in an 8-year-old gaming laptop. When it dies, I'll upgrade to one that comes with a bigger number and an M. And I probably play more games than anyone else I know.