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posted by n1 on Wednesday August 06 2014, @09:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the famous-editors dept.

A genomics professor has devised a tongue-in-cheek measure of scientific work vs. scientific recognition.

Neil Hall, a genomics professor with the University of Liverpool, has kicked up a bit of an Internet storm. He's written a paper and has had it published in the journal Genome Biology, suggesting (with tongue firmly in cheek) that some scientists are getting more attention than they deserve, due to their heightened social standing. He's even come up with a way to measure it, his so-called "Kardashian-index" or more simply, K-index-it's derived by noting how many people are following the scientist on Twitter and then dividing that number by followers the scientist probably should have due to papers written and associated citations for it, i.e. proof of actual work done.

The index is named after Kim Kardashian (and her family) of course, who have become famous for being famous -- they don't actually do anything. And that's the point of Hall's paper-is the scientific community in danger of being overrun by scientists who make a lot of noise in the social media world, but do very little actual scientific work? Hall notes that there seems to be times when scientists are asked to give talks at conferences based more on their social standing than on work they have actually done. This begs the question, are scientists (regardless of field) just as susceptible to the cult of celebrity as everyone else and if so, is it harming science?

Full text: http://genomebiology.com/2014/15/7/424

 
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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by gman003 on Thursday August 07 2014, @12:46AM

    by gman003 (4155) on Thursday August 07 2014, @12:46AM (#78268)

    Oh, get over it.

    First off, linguistic prescriptivism is a pointless fight that you will never win. "X begs the question" is perfectly valid phrase meaning "X raises the question", because that's how people use it. I understood exactly what was meant, you understood exactly what was meant, everybody understood what was meant.

    Second, there's little chance the "begs the question" phrase will be confused with the "begging the question" logical fallacy. It's used in quite different contexts, both syntactically and logically.

    Third, the phrase as *you* use it is based on a mistranslation, as your own Wikipedia link informed me. Which begs the question, why is the mistranslation considered the "correct" usage, and the one based on the individual meanings of the words considered the "wrong" one? It would be far more logical for it to be the exact opposite.

    I'll try to make this criticism constructive, and suggest an alternate phrasing. "Arguing for the antecedent" could be used as a replacement for "begging the question". If that seems too formal, you could use "restating the question" or "returning to the assumptions".

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  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday August 07 2014, @01:55AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday August 07 2014, @01:55AM (#78283) Journal

    First off, linguistic prescriptivism is a pointless fight that you will never win. "X begs the question" is perfectly valid phrase meaning "X raises the question", because that's how people use it.

    Because it is not slang, where "bad" can mean "good", or "cool" can mean "hot, and so forth. It is a pretension to vocabulary that the speaker does not grasp. So it does not mean what people think it means, even though they keep using it! (Yes, I know, it inconceivable!)

    And the usual, non-classically derived name for the error in reasoning is "arguing in a circle". Circular reasoning is like saying that a word means whatever people think it means, so whatever people think a word means is what it means! Hey, that begets a question: what if people do not know what a word means, but they keep using it anyway?

  • (Score: 2) by Marand on Thursday August 07 2014, @02:26AM

    by Marand (1081) on Thursday August 07 2014, @02:26AM (#78292) Journal

    Wow, you got really offended about my comment. I didn't expect anyone to be that vitriolic over it.

    I already said it was a lost cause and that I don't worry about it in casual contexts. In fact, I said that in the comment you responded to, as well as stating that I only commented on it because it was a glaring mistake in a place where proper English is important: journalism*. In casual contexts, sure, redefine the language how you like, as long as all parties involved still understand what you mean; but when the context is more formal, the rules matter, even if you don't agree with them. There are grammar rules I consider idiotic and generally ignore in casual conversation, but I still follow them when I write something formally.

    Also, for what it's worth, I rarely use the phrase at all because I don't generally need to refer to the logical fallacy and I believe there are much better ways to phrase the incorrect usage. Saying that something "raises the question" is usually the intended phrase, but it's not the only way to state the intended thought. So, why use "begs the question" when it's clunky and doesn't quite work? Any time someone says "begs the question" it sounds like they're begging this guy [wikipedia.org] for mercy, not asking a question.

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    * I suppose you could argue that the linked article doesn't qualify as journalism, but that's an entirely different argument, and one that would likely offend the people writing the articles. I doubt any sysadmins would appreciate being called a "computer janitor", for example, so I choose to assume the writers consider themselves journalists and hold them to similar standards.