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Interesting info on how big a scum Biden is, and why maybe Trump may win again.
If they don't dump Biden, Trump will ROAST HIS ASS and win. Again.

Are they THAT STUPID to push him forward?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc-thiessen-joe-bidens-electability

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 27 2019, @09:11PM (18 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday July 27 2019, @09:11PM (#872088) Journal

    Now I'm not sure if they're going to mean to do it when they do it, but the party is split down the middle by what's effectively a civil war--the one the Democrats and Republicans of 1980 or so SHOULD have had--and as has been observed before the corporate wing (the Reagan Republicans basically) controls the party. They're going to run Biden because he's the "safe" choice, just like Clinton couldn't *possibly* lose to Trump, and the GOP will take 2020.

    Around then, the economy will crater. A few of the smarter Dems will pretend this was the crazy-like-a-fox plan all along. Dems win in 2024, and would win if they ran Beavis and Butthead anyway, at that point. But what is there left to govern?

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday July 27 2019, @10:36PM (5 children)

    Broke-ass motherfucker wages rose above inflation inflation levels in 2018. Nobody else's did. That's not been seen in a very long time and it might make convincing the working man that he should vote blue a little more difficult.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 29 2019, @03:34PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 29 2019, @03:34PM (#872679)

      Citation needed

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2019, @09:58PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2019, @09:58PM (#873740)

      And yet almost half the country can't afford a $400 emergency. Very, very few people in the country can afford a $1,000 emergency. Yeah, the economy sure is great... for the mega-rich, mostly. The stock market being up mostly (mostly) benefits the rich. Strangely, it seems that the vast majority of the metrics the corporate media uses to determine whether or not the economy is doing well really mostly tell you how well the mega-rich are doing. I think that might be intentional.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday July 31 2019, @10:36PM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday July 31 2019, @10:36PM (#873760) Homepage Journal

        If you can't afford an emergency, that's on you not on society. No matter what you make, you should always save back at least three months of living expenses. If you go out and buy anything non-essential before doing so, emergencies you can't afford are entirely your own fault.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @11:03PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 03 2019, @11:03PM (#875278)

          I agree that people should be more financially responsible and reduce their mindless, destructive consumerism, but the point is that even in this so-called great economy, the situation of the average person isn't really improving in any significant way. Corporate welfare doesn't help the average person.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Saturday July 27 2019, @10:40PM (9 children)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Saturday July 27 2019, @10:40PM (#872117) Journal

    If Americans become fed up with Trump, the opposing Democrat can win by default. So this might be the best time ever to get a left-of-center candidate elected.

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    • (Score: 1) by Arik on Sunday July 28 2019, @09:50AM (8 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Sunday July 28 2019, @09:50AM (#872246) Journal
      But Americans are manifestly not fed up with Trump. His approval rating is pretty near his all time high.

      If you want to win the US Presidential election, in any decade of any century so far, you want to claim the center and paint the opposition as immoderate.

      The fact that someone as radically immoderate as Donald Trump is able to keep his approval ratings high is entirely up to how radically immoderate the opposition seems to the general populace, due to the two groups living in separate /umwelten/ so that what seems quite moderate and inoffensive in one world is /literally Hitler/ in the other, and vice versa.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @04:19PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @04:19PM (#872322)

        I disagree there. Had the democrats made Sanders, definitely not a centrist, the nominee, he would have won handily against Trump.
        If Sanders had only accepted the Green party's nomination for a Sanders / Stein ticket, he could very well have won what I'm estimating would have turned out 30-35% for each candidate.

        • (Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday July 28 2019, @05:29PM (3 children)

          by Arik (4543) on Sunday July 28 2019, @05:29PM (#872332) Journal
          I don't see how that's disagreement. Sanders was more appealing to the center than Clinton, and would have undoubtedly done better against Trump, almost certainly won; had he not been kneecapped in the primaries by the DNC cheating.

          Don't let Bernie fool you, he claims to be a socialist but he's not. He's just an idiot. A nice old idiot that doesn't rub his hands together with glee at the thought of dropping bombs on poor people in other countries.
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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @06:01PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @06:01PM (#872347)

            An idiot? You are entitled to your opinion, but I don't think the people of Vermont would have elected an "idiot" to the senate for 20 years. Sanders successfully fought for my pension, taking time to come and support us when we weren't even his constituents. And I couldn't disrespect his courage in travelling down South to protest for civil rights in the 1960s. He risked his skin for his fellow man.

            • (Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday July 28 2019, @07:17PM

              by Arik (4543) on Sunday July 28 2019, @07:17PM (#872382) Journal
              He's a cut above many of the other possibles, yes. I'm actually quite fond of the old coot.

              But what else can you call someone who takes relatively centrist positions then mis-labels them as 'socialist' which stops a lot of those middle of the road voters that he might otherwise reach to immediately stop listening?

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @06:22PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 28 2019, @06:22PM (#872360)

            It is the polls. He and his team knows that after years, and decades, of Republicans and Democratic establishments using the word "socialism" for policies they don't like, people who like some of those policies start responding to the word socialism. This really shouldn't surprise them at all. And, it is literally so bad that their pollsters keep telling them to stop using the word at all, because it increases support for a policy among a growing group of constituents. Not surprising that a social democrat, who gets vilified that way anyway, wants to take the bump in the polls he will get from using the term.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 29 2019, @05:10PM (1 child)

          You vastly underestimate the average American's revulsion to the word "socialist".

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 30 2019, @02:51AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 30 2019, @02:51AM (#872973)

            A minority, by definition, can not be "average". I guess all that book learnin' was left to those damn city slickers.

      • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday August 02 2019, @07:41PM

        The fact that someone as radically immoderate as Donald Trump is able to keep his approval ratings high

        42% to you is high? That's been Trump's approval rating pretty consistently throughout 2017-present. No matter what happens, good or bad, his approval rating has stayed pretty consistent.

        And the only reason they've stayed that high is that elected R's have no conscience or willingness to call out the slimy shenanigans that have been going on. Spineless scum.

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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday August 02 2019, @07:38PM (1 child)

    Now I'm not sure if they're going to mean to do it when they do it, but the party is split down the middle by what's effectively a twitter war

    There. FTFY.

    Just about all the polls show that the "war" within the Democratic Party is primarily a small number of folks duking it out on Twitter, not a huge split in the party. What's more, there are huge numbers of Democrats who don't care which candidate gets the nomination, as long as they can vote against L'Orange.

    Let's not forget that it was ~70,000 votes in three states (WI, MI, PA) that got Trump elected. In 2016, turnout was down in the urban areas of WI and MI, but slightly up in PA. As such, as long as the Dems can turn out their base (which they failed to do effectively in 2016) in those three states, Trump will lose in 2020.

    Note that it was only ~10,000 votes (0.77%) in WI, ~11,000 votes (0.23%) in MI, and ~49,500 votes (0.72%) in PA that put Trump over the top.

    It was clear *during* the 2016 election that the Democrats needed to pay more attention to those states, but did not do so. I suspect they won't make that mistake again.

    There was no "landslide" for Trump, nor was there any great groundswell of support for him specifically. In fact, the difference lay in lower turnout by African-Americans (vis a vis Barack Obama) and gullible older white folks who believed all the disinformation about Hillary Clinton (PizzaGate, Seth Rich, inaccurate details of how Clinton Foundation donations were/are spent, etc., etc., etc.).

    As such, any reasonable candidate should have no problem defeating Trump, as long as they make sure to turn out the D base and remind folks that we don't need a lying, obnoxious, dishonest amateur in the White House.

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    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday August 03 2019, @03:00AM

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 03 2019, @03:00AM (#874956) Journal

      I truly believe Trip got in because of a "Hell no,not Her" response.

      I believe Bernie would have beat Trump.
      I'd like to see a Warren/Sanders ticket.

      That means the bright lights in the D party will go with Biden and get beaten again.

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