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Own him, lefties!

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Dayton Shooter Invoked AOC’s ‘Concentration Camp’ Talking Points

https://therundownnews.com/2019/08/dayton-shooter-invoked-aocs-concentration-camp-talking-points/

The “concentration camp” terminology was was coined by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) in reference to ICE detention facilities. This is the second time a radical Antifa member has invoked that term before committing an act of terrorism.

Last month, a 69-year-old Antifa member, described as “indigent,” attempted to blow up an ICE facility with homemade bombs. (RELATED: Antifa ICE Bomber Invoked AOC’s ‘Concentration Camp’ Rhetoric Before Terror Attack).

I think we can all agree that the shooter in El Paso was a white supremacist, ie, a Nazi, that is, a National SOCIALIST.

So, what else are the lefties up to? Ahhh, Patchogue, New York. Good old Long Island.

  https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/07/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-fliers-hung-in-long-island-community/

‘Death Camps for Trump Supporters’ fliers hung in Long Island community

Apparently, incendiary rhetoric can fire up the party base, leading to death threats. At least that’s the case when the source of the emotionally charged language is Democratic lawmakers and the legacy media, which for months now have been accusing Donald Trump of racism, xenophobia, and other forms of bigotry.

Like the claim made on air yesterday by MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace that Donald Trump is “talking about exterminating Latinos,” there is no basis in fact for any of these allegations. But that hasn’t stirred the liberal base from becoming fired up over them.

Some in the village of Patchogue, an hour and a half outside New York City, have even taken to posting fliers on telephone polls and parking meters reading “Death Camps For Trump Supporters Now!”

I am old enough to remember when using innocuous printer’s registration marks to designate targeted electoral districts on a political map was enough to persuade the Left of former Gov. Sarah Palin’s violent intent, but that was several hundred civility-years ago.

Also reported on MSN, albeit, with disclaimers - https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/news/offbeat/patchogue-fliers-read-death-camps-for-trump-supporters/ar-AAFqUBD?i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8%3d

Related links
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/democrat-dayton-shooter-praised-antifa-terrorist-who-firebombed-ice-facility/
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/08/07/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-fliers-hung-in-long-island-community/

https://therundownnews.com/2019/08/violent-left-death-camps-for-trump-supporters-now/

You sane people who are left of center? You really ought to try reining in the extremists. If/when the real shooting starts, it's gonna be far, far too late. You can't talk to a man, with a shotgun in his hand - two points if you can name the song I lifted that line from.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @07:46PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @07:46PM (#877619)

    I think we can all agree that the shooter in El Paso was a white supremacist, ie, a Nazi, that is, a National SOCIALIST.

    The nazis were not socialist. They were free market capitalists.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:01PM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:01PM (#877641)

    I hope these upvotes are ironic...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:31PM (16 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:31PM (#877656)

      Bayers, BASF (IG Farben at the time) and Cie were all private industries working hand in hand with the Nazi. In fact the main characteristic of Fascism is the tighter cooperation between the private sector and the government.

      • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:52PM (15 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:52PM (#877661)

        the tighter cooperation between the private sector and the government.

        Sounds like free market capitalism to me!

        It was common in those days, as it is in ours, to identify the Communists as leftist and the Nazis as rightists, as if they stood on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. But Mises knew differently. They both sported the same ideological pedigree of socialism. "The German and Russian systems of socialism have in common the fact that the government has full control of the means of production. It decides what shall be produced and how. It allots to each individual a share of consumer's goods for his consumption."

        The difference between the systems, wrote Mises, is that the German pattern "maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets." But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. "Market exchange," says Mises, "is only a sham."

        Mises's account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year-old German writer. Through contacts with German business owners, Reimann documented how the "monster machine" of the Nazis crushed the autonomy of the private sector through onerous regulations, harsh inspections, and the threat of confiscatory fines for petty offenses.

        "Industrialists were visited by state auditors who had strict orders to examine the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company or individual businessmen for the preceding two, three, or more years until some error or false entry was found," explains Reimann. "The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error."

        Reimann quotes from a businessman's letter: "You have no idea how far state control goes and how much power the Nazi representatives have over our work. The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except 'distributing the wealth.' Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.

        https://mises.org/library/business-under-nazis [mises.org]
        https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/The%20Vampire%20Economy.pdf [amazonaws.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:54PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:54PM (#877663)

          *snort* lol!

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 09 2019, @12:13PM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 09 2019, @12:13PM (#877860) Journal
            That snort was so persuasive. Just because the Nazi version had token civilians running companies doesn't make it a free market.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 10 2019, @04:00AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 10 2019, @04:00AM (#878104)

              Absolute free markets don't exist, not even in the United States.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:58PM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:58PM (#877666)

          But Mises knew differently.

          So that is what they are calling stupidity these days! Thanks, AC!

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:16PM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:16PM (#877674)

            The books quotes a letter from a businessman in 1930s Germany:

            Dear Mr. X. Y.:
            This letter will probably be a disappointment to you, but
            I must confess that I think as most German businessmen do
            who today fear National Socialism as much as they did
            Communism in 1932. But there is a distinction. In 1932, the
            fear of Communism was a phantom; today National Social-
            ism is a terrible reality. Business friends of mine are con-
            vinced that it will be the turn of the "white Jews" (which
            means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been
            expropriated. Just when this will happen and the extent
            to which "Aryan" businessmen will be pillaged depends on
            the internal struggle within the Nazi party . . .
            When we consider that Hitler himself came not from the
            ranks of organized labor, but from the ruined middle class
            or the fifth estate, what guarantee have we that he will not
            make common cause with the bandits whom he has put into
            uniforms? The difference between this and the Russian
            system is much less than you think, despite the fact that
            officially we are still independent businessmen.
            You have no idea how far State control goes and how
            much power the Nazi representatives have over our work.
            The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. In this respect
            they certainly differ from the former Social-Democratic
            officials. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except "dis-
            tributing the wealth."
            Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist
            theories, so that they will have a better understanding of
            the present economic system.
            How can we possibly manage a firm according to busi-
            ness principles if it is impossible to make any predictions
            as to the prices at which goods are to be bought and sold?
            We are completely dependent on arbitrary Government deci-
            sions concerning quantity, quality and prices for foreign
            raw materials. There are so many different economic agree-
            ments with foreign countries, not to mention methods of
            payment, that no one can possibly understand them all.
            Nevertheless Government representatives are permanently
            at work in our offices, examining costs of production, profits,
            tax bills, etc. . . .
            There is no elasticity of prices, sorely needed though it be
            by businessmen. While State representatives are busily en-
            gaged in investigating and interfering, our agents and sales-
            men are handicapped, because they never know whether or
            not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a
            "profiteer" or "saboteur," followed by a prison sentence.
            You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet
            everyone is afraid to complain about it. The new State loans
            are nothing but confiscation of private property, because
            no one believes that the Government will ever make repay-
            ment, nor even pay interest after the first few years. Com-
            pared with these new State loans, the bonds issued during
            the World War were gilt-edged investments.
            We businessmen still make sufficient profit, sometimes
            even large profits, but we never know how much we are
            going to be able to keep . . .
            Workers also make a fair living, particularly where the
            hourly rate has not been changed. A workingman who
            worked six hours a day before must now work eleven and
            twelve hours daily. Often his wife and children are also
            employed so that the family income has considerably in-
            creased. . . .
            You will find it hard to understand that, although from
            the financial point of view we ought not to complain, no
            one enjoys life any more. Everywhere there is a growing
            undercurrent of bitterness. This feeling is worse now than
            it has ever been. Everyone has his doubts about the system,
            unless he is very young, very stupid or is bound to it by
            the privileges he enjoys. Therefore the real enthusiasm we
            experienced after the occupation of the Saar is no more and
            it cannot be revived. Even great historical events, such as
            the Anschluss of Austria and the Sudetenland, did nothing
            to lift this bitter spirit. Everywhere I hear businessmen de-
            clare that Anschluss with bankrupt concerns makes a bank-
            rupt enterprise still more bankrupt.
            All of us—even convinced Nazis—are hungry for news
            from abroad. Somehow British broadcasts seem better than
            the French, but perhaps that is only our imagination, be-
            cause we know England's attitude is decisive to us. An alli-
            ance with Italy is quite unimportant as compared to our
            relations with England. Most Germans feel that another war
            would be lost before it started if England as well as America
            were against us.
            If a war should start, we should probably have a revolu-
            tion in Germany very soon. The French Revolution will
            seem like nothing in comparison. A tremendous reservoir
            of hatred exists and it has no outlet at present. As in
            1918, the workers will not start the revolution. It will
            begin with the army; young officers are as unpopular as
            they were in the old Prussian army. Personally I predict that
            there will be mass desertions. A good many people feel that
            the soldiers will start the revolution by massacring all the
            Nazis. In any case, our government is certainly not going
            to feel safe, and it is sure to introduce a reign of terror
            of Draconic proportions. Hatred and bitterness will increase
            just that much more.
            There are terrible times coming. You can imagine how
            I feel when I think that I am going to have to go through
            this terrible debacle. If only I had succeeded in smuggling
            out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with
            my family . . .

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:26PM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:26PM (#877675)

              Cool story bro.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:32PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:32PM (#877678)

                "The next stage of National-Socialist economic
                policy consists of replacing capitalist laws by policy." 4

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:42PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:42PM (#877679)

                The first hand account in that book is filled with this stuff:

                T h e capitalist under fascism has to be not merely a
                law-abiding citizen, he must be servile to the repre-
                sentatives of the State. H e must not insist on "rights"
                and must not behave as if his private property rights
                were still sacred. H e should be grateful to the Fuehrer
                that he still has private property.
                T h i s state of affairs must lead to the final collapse
                of business morale, and sound the death knell of the
                self-respect and self-reliance which marked the inde-
                pendent businessman under liberal capitalism.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @12:13AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @12:13AM (#877685)

                The life of the German businessman is full of con-
                tradictions. He cordially dislikes the gigantic, top-heavy,
                bureaucratic State machine which is strangling his eco-
                nomic independence. Yet he needs the aid of these de-
                spised bureaucrats more and more, and is forced to run
                after them, begging for concessions, privileges, grants,
                in fear that his competitor will gain the advantage.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @02:04AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @02:04AM (#877720)

                No free market could come up with something like this:

                It has become an officially de-
                creed rule that no new tires may be sold unless the old
                tire is returned completely worn out. But this system
                does not work out in practice. Reserve tires are needed
                so badly that firms have resorted to buying entire
                new trucks just to obtain new tires. These tires were
                then removed and the new trucks sold without the tires
                as scrap iron. Business ingenuity in circumventing the
                State bureaucracy thus results in fantastic waste of ma-
                terials, all in the name of preventing waste.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 10 2019, @03:24AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 10 2019, @03:24AM (#878097)

                  moar about how awful fascism is!

                  one would think at some point rational selfishness would kick in

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday August 10 2019, @12:10PM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 10 2019, @12:10PM (#878190) Journal

                    one would think at some point rational selfishness would kick in

                    Then I guess "one" is ignorant of history. It did kick in to some degree after 1945.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:27PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:27PM (#877676)

            The decree of February 28, 1933, nullified article 153 of
            the Weimar Constitution which guaranteed private prop-
            erty and restricted interference with private property in ac-
            cordance with certain legally defined conditions . . . The
            conception of property has experienced a fundamental
            change. The individualistic conception of the State—a re-
            sult of the liberal spirit—must give way to the concept that
            communal welfare precedes individual welfare. (Gemeinnutz
            geht vor Eigennutz).

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Friday August 09 2019, @03:15AM (1 child)

    by Arik (4543) on Friday August 09 2019, @03:15AM (#877752) Journal
    In oppositeland.

    In reality they explicitly rejected the 'watchman state' of the free market liberals and demanded an 'ethical state' instead - one that would not try to be a neutral referee but rather one that would make ethical choices on behalf of the entire nation and brook no dissent from those choices. They tolerated something that looked a little like private business instead of expropriating everything Soviet style, but there was nothing 'free' about their market.
    --
    If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @05:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09 2019, @05:53AM (#877785)

      Arik, you are out of your league!