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China Now Has AI-Powered Judges
Beijing is bringing AI judges to court. The move, proclaimed by China as "the first of its kind in the world", comes from the Beijing Internet Court, which has launched an online litigation service center featuring an artificially intelligent female judge, with a body, facial expressions, voice, and actions all modeled off a living, breathing human (one of the court's actual female judges, to be exact).
[...] But conspiracy theorists can breathe a sigh of relief — the AI apocalypse is not nigh (yet). This virtual judge, whose abilities are based on intelligent speech and image synthesizing technologies, is to be used for the completion of “repetitive basic work” only, according to the Beijing Internet Court’s official statement on the move. That means she’ll mostly be dealing with litigation reception and online guidance. Other features of the online service center include a mobile micro-court and an official Weitao (Taobao's social-media service for brands) account.
Rather than replacing human-populated courts, Beijing's Internet Court’s stated mission is to use new technology to provide more effective, more widely-reaching public services. According to court president Zhang Wen, integrating AI and cloud computing with the litigation service system will allow the public to better reap the benefits of technological innovation in China.
For the first time in China, #AI assistive technology was used in a trial at Shanghai No 2 Intermediate People's Court on Wed, the Legal Daily reported. When the judge, public prosecutor or defender asked the AI system, it displayed all related evidence on a courtroom screen. pic.twitter.com/fEI7cR5U3T
— People's Daily, China (@PDChina) January 25, 2019
(Score: 2, Touché) by choose another one on Thursday August 22 2019, @10:39AM (9 children)
This is China, how long before "repetitive basic work" is extended to "sentence-defendant; shoot-in-head; bill-relatives-for-bullet" ?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @11:04AM (7 children)
# Look Ma, I can code AI!
while (1) { return "Guilty" }
(Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:36PM (6 children)
That while loop is pointless because it will be terminated as soon as the return statement is executed. That is, that code is exactly equivalent to just the return statement.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:12PM (2 children)
10 PRINT "GUILTY"
20 GOSUB 10
30 END
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(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:32PM (1 child)
Stack overflow. ;-)
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @04:30PM
The recursion will end once it hits the RETURN statement. Just be patient!
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:45PM (2 children)
As long is ran once per trial it works.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:17PM (1 child)
Never heard of multiple charges?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @04:31PM
Positive and Negative?
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:10PM
Please realize that defendants are not simply railroaded through the system. They will be represented by an AI-Powered defense lawyer.
This will make things easier for the AI-Powered prosecutor.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Thursday August 22 2019, @11:23AM (5 children)
1980s Dade County had "video tape" traffic court judges... you show up, never know if you might get a real judge, but 9/10 times it would be the video tape which read you your options: 1) Guilty, pay and get points, 2) No Contest, pay and go to traffic school, 3) Not Guilty, reschedule to see a real judge.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:17PM (4 children)
While this strips dignity from the process, I'm not sure it alters the outcome. Even in front of a human judge, those three options are your ONLY options. Any attempt at anything other than selecting from those three will not be tolerated by a human judge. In fact it could get you in contempt of court.
So really your options are:
[_] Guilty, pay and win points!
[_] No Contest, pay and go to online traffic school
[_] Not Guilty, schedule the process to prepare for trial
[x] Contempt of court
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:04PM
You can ALWAYS go for contempt of court, the bailiff will happily remand you to a courtroom with a real judge if you've got the attitude for it.
IMO, the video taped judge did two things: 1) he raised the cost of pleading not guilty to two trips to court, where a single trip to court is already more costly than just paying the fine in most cases..., and 2) he also gave a 100% available (when you've got the video tape judge) option to plead no contest and take traffic school for no points on your license, human judges didn't always give this option - depending on priors, etc., but the video tape judge would allow infinite elections to traffic school. In other words, you still have the option to plead no contest with a human judge, but the human judge has the option to throw you under the jail if he believes you deserve it - so judgy.
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(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:12PM (2 children)
In Manitoba I remember one could plead "Guilty with explanation."
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:20PM (1 child)
Will the explanation result in an increased fine?
Or lower the fine, but then significantly increase the court costs for having to listen to the explanation.
I'm not sure what good an explanation would actually do if, in fact, you were speeding and acknowledge that you were speeding.
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(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @01:15AM
Back in the '70s that was an option here. You went to the scheduling window, plead not guilty with an explanation and got a reduced fine. There was a level, I think 15 over, where a live court appearance was required, but for lesser infractions it was just a way to avoid court and get a reduced fine. It didn't matter what the explanation was, UFO's were chasing me was just as valid as the speed sign was covered in snow and I didn't realize the speed was reduced.
It didn't prevent points on your license, just reduced the fine from a strait guilty plea and eliminated a court appearance.
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(Score: 2) by jasassin on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:08PM (8 children)
Watch the movie Lexx. Scary dystopian far future. The judges are holographic, and you are guaranteed to lose an organ.
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(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:23PM
Electric Eels [wikipedia.org] have electric organs. It would be a shame to loose one of those. Especially if it predates MIDI. But then there is the question of "which of these two men has the largest organ?" This naturally leads to the followup question of whether the pipes, external speakers or other apparatus are counted in the size, or is only the keyboard equipment counted? Finally a lost organ might be found after a careful search is conducted.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:47PM (1 child)
Well, chinese prisoners lose organs without complicated hollograms, chinese are way ahead of this epoch.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 24 2019, @09:42AM
Only the evil ones
(Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Thursday August 22 2019, @08:49PM (4 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Informative) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @12:34AM (2 children)
The first season were originally 4 movies entitled "Tales from an Alternate Universe" on Showtime. They were cut into the first season. Eva Habermann was Zev who was killed at the end of the forth movie, Xenia Seeberg was Xev reconstituted from leftover Eva goo for the next three seasons.
Dark and twisted, one of my all time favorite series (4th season kinda sucked, like BSG, finding Earth is never a good thing for a series).
As the commercials of the time said, "are you ready for some strange?"
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Friday August 23 2019, @08:49AM (1 child)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @09:54AM
Yeah, that's an accurate description.
It gets weirder from there.
It was pretty risque for its era, and would never get made today in the 'I'm offended by everything climate.'
I love a lot of bad movies though...MST3K fan since the first episodes.
My 'Skull and Crossbones' movie collection consists of a lot of so bad they're good movies.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @01:03AM
Oh yeah, WHY it was an awesome series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m8uSwZPHcU [youtube.com]
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:38PM (3 children)
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:49PM
Call it a tech demo. Meant to make some headlines but not something that will see widespread use.
Sounds like the U.S. Army chatbot.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Thursday August 22 2019, @01:06PM
This is exactly why this sort of stuff happens.
It reminds me of the stories from a way while back back where stores were going to start putting video screens in shopping carts to play advertisements. Any brain dead 2-year old could tell you a dozen reasons why that wouldn't work well, but somewhere some higher up was sold on that crap. How many shopping carts have those today? None.
And here, I get my panties in a wad just talking to telephony voice recognition systems "say 'yes' for yes or 'no' for no." Why can't I just press "2" like any other fucking system? It can't hear me with all the noise here! "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that!" DOES THE WORD DE-RESOLUTION MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU, BITCH!
Wake me up when they replace lawyers with AI. I might actually get behind that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:36PM
It's because it empowers the grunch. Workers can strike AI can just be retrained.
(Score: 2) by Alfred on Thursday August 22 2019, @01:37PM (4 children)
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:25PM (2 children)
It isn't a real women. It is an AI robot. So you cannot say you have been Miss. Judge'd.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:51PM
Horatio meme: put glasses on .... YEAAAAH!
Sorry for the meme reference, just couldn't resist.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:46PM
From the summary:
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @12:57AM
Communist? Naw, more like Authoritarian Capitalism.
Hell, the government of China is more Capitalist than we are!
They just openly control it from the barrel of a gun.
True Communism (IMHO) cannot exist beyond the tribal stage of development, when everyone works for the good of the tribe or they all die.
Once their is plenty of food, true Communism dies and is replaced by Warlords, Authoritarians, Monarchies, doo-doo heads etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_capitalism#China [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 22 2019, @02:27PM (3 children)
How about AI-Powered congress critters?
I mean if the judicial branch can be AI, why not the legislative branch?
Oh! Oh! I know!!! What about the executive branch?
And why do I call them "branches"? Any good circus has three rings: executive, legislative and judicial.
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @05:26PM
Congress already is AI. They're too stupid to think for themselves so they let big corporations buy their decision.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 22 2019, @05:53PM (1 child)
The executive branch hasn't been an AI for the past several administrations? Here I was thinking it was all Memorex. It explained so much!
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @12:26AM
Yeah, Artificial but not intelligent. True since at least Reagan.
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(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday August 23 2019, @12:14AM
https://youtu.be/OFRe4nl8ugM?t=1348 [youtu.be]
Camp and corn become reality.
Idiocracy becomes prescient.
And apparently so does Lexx.
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