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Recently one of our frothier, crazier members, who is in my opinion a fascinating real-time case study of alt-right radicalization, posted a journal titled "Conservatism is the new counter-culture." The entry is...well, wrong on the face of it for reasons I will explain below, not to mention rambling, pointless, and demented.
First of all, by definition, conservatism cannot be "counterculture" because the very concept means to hold onto the status quo. Many self-described "conservatives" are actually reactionaries, which are the "let's blow up the observatory so no asteroid ever hits us!" types, and are either too dumb to know the difference or too evil to care and will use the word conservative to hide their actual intent. I am leaning toward the first. Nevertheless, a conservative by definition cannot be counterculture.
No, what we have here is reactionary backlash. It's another wave of the same kind of whiny crybaby temper tantrums people threw with the desegregation of public spaces, or the passage of Loving vs. Virginia, or the more recent passage of nationwide recognition of same-sex marriages: people who used to be the nation's punching bags now have (closer to...) equal rights in society, and the ones who used to be able to do anything from simply mocking them to discriminating against them for housing and jobs to outright killing them with few or no repercussions are asspained that they can't any longer.
And this reactionary backlash always follows a well-worn, drearily predictable pattern: demonizing twice as hard, insisting that equality under the law is actually special privilege, bitching and moaning that actually $GROUP are the bad guys and they (the complainers) are the real victims and the actual ones being discriminated against, all slathered with a heaping helping of pig-ignorant but incredibly loud wrongness about liberty and the First Amendment and family values and what have you.
The new demons-du-jour seem to be trans* people. I don't get it either, but Stonewall was barely 20 years before I was born, and even today there are people who will do anything from assault you to torture and kill you for being gay. For that reason, they have my support in general, even though I've had some really bad experiences with transwomen/MtFs and really only know transmen/FtMs (and all three of the ones I know are super-cool people and way less toxic as men than most cismen I know, somehow...).
Another thing I notice is that the specific pattern of accusations and charges leveled against the demonized group never changes: they're mentally ill, they're innately criminal and/or disordered, they're making society adapt to them instead of the other way around, they're loud and shrill, they're "shoving $DIFFERENCE down my throat," they're demanding special privileges, they're a tyrannical minority, and so on, and so forth. Crimes committed by any member of $GROUP are taken to be evidence that every member is the same way and, often, used to obscure or misdirect attention from the systematic injustices done to them. When they speak out, it's considered "troublemaking."
And at the heart of it all is, like I said above, plain ol' overprivileged resentment at not being able to divide the world into in-group and out-group and shit all over the out-group so easily any longer. It's not quite this simple of course; many people are "secondary racists" or "secondary gay/trans-haters," which is to say they have some very real economic or social grievances and have been convinced ("redpilled") that $GROUP is the cause of all their suffering by a few utter sociopaths who find their reactionary flailing useful (and perhaps amusing). Still, primary or secondary doesn't matter too much to the person whose life is made hell, or ended outright.
I don't know what to do about this. There are mind-disrupting memeplexes, "basilisks" as I've called them elsewhere, that seem able to permanently alter peoples' ability to relate to others different from them, and in many cases make them tacitly approve of if not outright participate in their ostracism, suffering, and deaths. As it is well-known that you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into, there are few options left and even fewer that don't have horrible side effects themselves.
First of all, by definition, conservatism cannot be "counterculture" because the very concept means to hold onto the status quo. Many self-described "conservatives" are actually reactionaries, which are the "let's blow up the observatory so no asteroid ever hits us!" types, and are either too dumb to know the difference or too evil to care and will use the word conservative to hide their actual intent. I am leaning toward the first. Nevertheless, a conservative by definition cannot be counterculture.
No, what we have here is reactionary backlash. It's another wave of the same kind of whiny crybaby temper tantrums people threw with the desegregation of public spaces, or the passage of Loving vs. Virginia, or the more recent passage of nationwide recognition of same-sex marriages: people who used to be the nation's punching bags now have (closer to...) equal rights in society, and the ones who used to be able to do anything from simply mocking them to discriminating against them for housing and jobs to outright killing them with few or no repercussions are asspained that they can't any longer.
And this reactionary backlash always follows a well-worn, drearily predictable pattern: demonizing twice as hard, insisting that equality under the law is actually special privilege, bitching and moaning that actually $GROUP are the bad guys and they (the complainers) are the real victims and the actual ones being discriminated against, all slathered with a heaping helping of pig-ignorant but incredibly loud wrongness about liberty and the First Amendment and family values and what have you.
The new demons-du-jour seem to be trans* people. I don't get it either, but Stonewall was barely 20 years before I was born, and even today there are people who will do anything from assault you to torture and kill you for being gay. For that reason, they have my support in general, even though I've had some really bad experiences with transwomen/MtFs and really only know transmen/FtMs (and all three of the ones I know are super-cool people and way less toxic as men than most cismen I know, somehow...).
Another thing I notice is that the specific pattern of accusations and charges leveled against the demonized group never changes: they're mentally ill, they're innately criminal and/or disordered, they're making society adapt to them instead of the other way around, they're loud and shrill, they're "shoving $DIFFERENCE down my throat," they're demanding special privileges, they're a tyrannical minority, and so on, and so forth. Crimes committed by any member of $GROUP are taken to be evidence that every member is the same way and, often, used to obscure or misdirect attention from the systematic injustices done to them. When they speak out, it's considered "troublemaking."
And at the heart of it all is, like I said above, plain ol' overprivileged resentment at not being able to divide the world into in-group and out-group and shit all over the out-group so easily any longer. It's not quite this simple of course; many people are "secondary racists" or "secondary gay/trans-haters," which is to say they have some very real economic or social grievances and have been convinced ("redpilled") that $GROUP is the cause of all their suffering by a few utter sociopaths who find their reactionary flailing useful (and perhaps amusing). Still, primary or secondary doesn't matter too much to the person whose life is made hell, or ended outright.
I don't know what to do about this. There are mind-disrupting memeplexes, "basilisks" as I've called them elsewhere, that seem able to permanently alter peoples' ability to relate to others different from them, and in many cases make them tacitly approve of if not outright participate in their ostracism, suffering, and deaths. As it is well-known that you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into, there are few options left and even fewer that don't have horrible side effects themselves.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Monday August 26 2019, @02:14PM
All I see here is anecdotal evidence for insufficiently defined sociopolitical models. Some of this evidence comes from the mainstream media, OMG. In my region, which traditionally votes right and features the very first, and one of the very few, purely racial assassination (Valent, 1985, likely some masonic initiation rite), transsexuals roam the city without harassing or being harassed.
Addressing the title for a moment. Conservatives are the counter-culture every time progress is state sanctioned. URSS comes to mind.
Reactionary is bad? I suggest to put aside the pseudoreligion that implies that (we all know, right, that manipulation is done by assuming things as self evident, not stating them).
Progress is a split agenda. Industrial revolution destroyed society in the name of progress. Social revolutions destroyed society in the name of fighting plutocracy, both reds and blacks. So every fucking one of you is a reactionary conservative because it opposes some parts of the agenda.