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The Marist Mindset List for the Entering College Class of 2023:
The Marist Mindset List for the Entering College Class of 2023
Born in 2001 the incoming class of college students never shared the earth with Joey Ramone, George Harrison, Timothy McVeigh, or Ken Kesey.
Among their classmates could be Billie Eilish, Sasha Obama, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's daughter Simone.
- Like Pearl Harbor for their grandparents, and the Kennedy assassination for their parents, 9/11 is an historical event.
- Thumb, jump, and USB flash drives have always pushed floppy disks further into history.
- The primary use of a phone has always been to take pictures.
- The nation's mantra has always been: "If you see something, say something."
- The Tech Big Four--Apple, Facebook, Amazon and Google -- are to them what the Big Three automakers were to their grandparents.
- Their smart pens may write and record faster than they can think.
- Nearly half of their generation is composed of people of color.
- When they pulled themselves up off the floor for the first time, they may have been hanging onto the folks' brand-new Xbox.
- There have always been indecisive quadrennial debates regarding the future of the Electoral College.
- Oklahoma City has always had a national memorial at its center.
- [...]
Created by Tom McBride and Ron Nief at Beloit College in 1998, the list was meant to reflect the world view of entering first year students—and to help faculty understand incoming classes—the list started with the members of the class of 2002, born in 1980.
There are 50 more items on the list of things that have been either always or never true for the list's Entering College Class.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Thursday September 12 2019, @12:05PM (19 children)
Not really, its a press release to get PR to appeal to parent age (grandparent age) people.
The 9/11 and OKC stuff is laughable because that might be nostalgic for parents but its like claiming as a Gen-X when I was a freshman I was fascinated by the Chosin Reservoir battle during the Korean war, missing the point that my grandparents were quite interested having lived thru that, but I was like whatevs that happened 20 years before I was born.
Also who paid the marketing bill to have "smart pens" included in the list? Seriously? Like google glass is more relevant and its not relevant so ....
Or consider the "nation's mantra", whatever, I think for freshman its more like "wear protection" or "smoke weed everyday" not some abstract business aircraft traveler propaganda.
One actual real world difference I can point out, is in previous generations TV mattered and drove culture. For kids these days, TV is utterly dead and irrelevant, its something only old people watch with endless viagra and funeral home commercials. For laughs, tell a modern kid that we used to watch hours of TV when we were their age, and they'll be like "WTF, why?"
Another one is natural female hypergamy plus dating apps means the percentage of twenty-something sexless men has gone up from like 5% when "we" were kids to something like a third now. Like 10% of dudes get 90% of the action now, leaving the other 90% of men pretty lonely. Luckily, in human history nothing bad has ever happened when a huge number of young men are angry and have nothing to lose, so I'm sure it'll all turn out great.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @12:35PM (3 children)
I'm sure no one ever lied on those survey ... the reality is that this number "in the past" is probably completely wrong and didn't change all too much. And sex doesn't equal some prostitute.
yeah .... people are angry because why? The jews stole their women and they had "nothing to lose"? No? So what do women have to do with that and "nothing to lose"?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:05PM
I believe the poster was indicating that “men”, not “people”, are angry with nothing to lose because they are lacking meaningful relationships with women. Look at it this way, guy has
testosterone pumping through his veins motivating him to either pursue sexual interests or be angry.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Freeman on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:47PM
I'm quite sure your significant other would deem sex with a prostitute as sex and likely a very bad thing. Unless, your relationship is like Snow's Soap Opera.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:06PM
Assuming "like 5%" and "like a third" are based on actual surveys and not made up, why would people lie less about being incels today? Incel pride?
No, there is a clear trend towards more "herbivorous" men in certain countries.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Thursday September 12 2019, @01:16PM (7 children)
Yeah, what the hell is a smart pen?
(Score: 4, Informative) by EvilSS on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:19PM (6 children)
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:51PM (3 children)
What is a smart pen?
Sounds like an excellent gift idea for Russia / China / North Korea to gift to Trump.
A smart pen sounds about as smart as other smart IoT things.
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:16PM (2 children)
So then the problem with a smart pen is that you need a special surface to go with it. Given that I already have extremely cheap, reliable, and readily available pens and non-special surfaces (generally called paper) that I can carry around with me, along with a smartphone, I would argue that the digital storage functionality is already there in the form of taking a picture of whatever I write down. I can also use this technique to capture images on non-smart whiteboards drawn with non-smart markers. And I don't have to worry about keeping a smart pen charged, just the smartphone, which I already do.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:35PM
How many tech toys have there been that seemed cool but were completely impractical?
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 2) by EvilSS on Thursday September 12 2019, @08:32PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:08PM (1 child)
I would think they mean something like an ipencil. They are rather popular to use in class.
(Score: 2) by EvilSS on Thursday September 12 2019, @08:37PM
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday September 12 2019, @03:18PM
"Well, you know the Internet, right?"
"Um yeah."
"There wasn't one back then that regular people could use."
"Holy crap! I ... I can't imagine what that's like!"
"Yeah, it was ... actually, neither can I anymore."
(Score: 1) by tbuskey on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:51PM
Definitely on the decline. I don't watch TV anymore (as a gen-xer) and I don't see ads. I'm amazed at how many are on TV at the grandparents.
TVs are for gaming consoles or computers.
Who watches shows by appointment anymore? Or does research only when the library is open; google, wikipedia and youtube are 24x7.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @05:16PM
Entirely agreed. However, that doesn't make it useless. It's something like trend analysis.
If you ask somebody, "how happy are you," for a scientific study that's on the surface silly. How do you measure happiness? How do you standardize it?
However, if you keep asking somebody every week for a few years, you can start getting meaningful data. "After you eat chocolate cake, relative happiness usually goes up a little. After you have a marriage, your happiness goes up a lot, but recovers to baseline after 6 months." Things like that.
While any given entry here is silly, banal, a marketing exercise, or otherwise silly; I imagine if you look at each one for the past few decades, you will see some interesting developments. If nothing else, it will be a fun walk down memory lane.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:13PM
Or great-grandparents. Yeah, today parents may wait until they're 40 to get kids, but I think I'm the age of current students' parents, and the Kennedy assassination was far before my time.
And when did the term "grammar school" last have currency?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:16PM
I think that's kinda the point
"Like Pearl Harbor for their grandparents, and the Kennedy assassination for their parents, 9/11 is an historical event. "
They consider it a historic event, something in the past that they don't dwell on as much as their parents whereas their parents and grandparents lived through it. It seems like the author is making your exact point.
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Friday September 13 2019, @12:13AM
You don't even need to RTFA - it's in the summary:
You are correct - the list is intended to be read by old people (i.e. the faculty) to help them understand the perspective of the incoming class.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 13 2019, @02:58AM
How does "hypergamy" even mesh with incels? We want hypergamy, right? Everybody gets laid!
Or are we talking about trucel theory? The black pill?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by NateMich on Thursday September 12 2019, @12:38PM (2 children)
While every once in a while there was an interesting point made, most of this was so poorly written it was hard to even read.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 12 2019, @02:53PM
Is making a point, oh, look, a shiny outside the window, I wonder if it has rainbow colors and weighs as much as a gallon of grade A eggs.
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @04:09PM
Some illiterate boomer wrote this list.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Thursday September 12 2019, @01:15PM (2 children)
The list has devolved over time. Now it seems to be equal parts product placement and political jabs. They sprinkle in a couple hooks to bring in the punters.
Who cares if we're in the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty? Seriously, who cares? This is not the Cold War, when such matters were important and talked about in the news and in schools because it was part of the great struggle with the Soviet Union. Now, I doubt anybody who is that college-entering age has even heard of any missile control treaty, and exactly zero of them care.
So, why would anybody care if the US is in such a treaty or not? Well, they wouldn't, ergo it all boils down to a political jab at the current Whitehouse because what everybody really looks for every new day is for yet another cheap jab at Trump.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Codesmith on Thursday September 12 2019, @05:22PM (1 child)
Context for you: http://gwynnedyer.com/2019/the-inf-another-treaty-bites-the-dust/ [gwynnedyer.com]
Personally, anything that reduces nuclear weapons and delivery systems is a good thing, thank you.
Pro utilitate hominum.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 14 2019, @03:44PM
It's a good thing when you're in a nuclear standoff with another superpower rival, because it rachets down tensions. When you're the world's sole superpower, it's an enormously good thing to have a virtual monopoly on those means because it amounts to a guarantee that other nations won't mess with you---much.
So I am quite grateful that America is still sitting on thousands of functional ICBMs and other nuclear weapons, because it ensures that other nations like China and Russia will continue politely talking to us instead of summarily seizing what they want by force.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @05:07PM (2 children)
Car windshields do not get covered with bug splat when driving at night
World population has always been over 6 billion
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:17PM (1 child)
Why not? Global warming?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @06:40PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/02/insect-apocalypse-really-upon-us/583018/ [theatlantic.com]
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 12 2019, @09:09PM
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