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posted by martyb on Tuesday September 17 2019, @05:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the resign:-to-sign-and-sign-again? dept.

Richard M. Stallman Resigns as FSF President and from its Board of Directors

https://www.fsf.org/news/richard-m-stallman-resigns (emphasis from original retained):

On September 16, 2019, Richard M. Stallman, founder and president of
the Free Software Foundation, resigned as president and from its board
of directors.

The board will be conducting a search for a new president, beginning
immediately. Further details of the search will be published on
fsf.org.

For questions, contact FSF executive director John Sullivan at
johns@fsf.org.

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Computer Scientist Richard Stallman Resigns from MIT Over Epstein Comments

Computer Scientist Richard Stallman Resigns From MIT Over Epstein Comments

Famed free software advocate and computer scientist Richard Stallman has resigned from MIT, according to an email he published online. The resignation comes after Stallman made comments about victims of child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, including that the victims went along with the abuse willingly.

"I am resigning effective immediately from my position in CSAIL at MIT," Stallman wrote in the email, referring to MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. "I am doing this due to pressure on MIT and me over a series of misunderstandings and mischaracterizations."

[...] Last week, Motherboard published the full email thread in which Stallman wrote that the "most plausible scenario" is that Epstein's underage victims in his campaign of trafficking were "entirely willing." Stallman also argued about the definition of "rape" and whether the term applies to the victims.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 17 2019, @01:05PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 17 2019, @01:05PM (#895117)

    That is not what Stallman was saying in the emails. He was saying that because the article he said never said it was forced it was therefore unfair to call it an assault. Specifically he suggests it was, "accusation inflation." That was put back into his face that it was not an inflation. Regardless of Dr. Minksy's innocence the charge was leveled that it occurred.

    Regardless of Dr. Minsky's guilt or innocence "sexual assault" is not a slippery term, in fact it is quite definable legally and psychologically, and neither is statutory rape. When others tried to point out that because she was 17 it doesn't matter if the act was consensual or not a further rationalization was put forth that the concept is in error. Which was then corrected by simply stating that this is the law, whether or not he finds it morally acceptable.

    If he was trying to defend Dr. Minsky this would be understandable. Dr. Minsky may in fact be innocent. But this was not the path to take to do that.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 17 2019, @11:02PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 17 2019, @11:02PM (#895395)

    There's nothing at all wrong with discussing age of consent laws.

  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday September 18 2019, @07:50AM (4 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday September 18 2019, @07:50AM (#895533) Homepage
    > is not a slippery term, in fact it is quite definable legally

    Then why do different jurisdictions define it so differently?

    It's because whilst there are some cases that clearly are, and some cases that clearly aren't, there are other cases which some think are, and others think aren't. That's the very definition of a grey area. If that ain't a slippery term, I don't know what is.
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    • (Score: 1, Redundant) by barbara hudson on Wednesday September 18 2019, @11:38PM (3 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday September 18 2019, @11:38PM (#895893) Journal
      Wrong. Sexual assault is any act of a sexual nature that lacks proper legal consent. Exposing yourself in public will get you on the sex offenders list. And that's the way it should be. If you can't control yourself, then society has to step in and do so.
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      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:15AM (2 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:15AM (#896013) Homepage
        > of a sexual nature

        Defined differently in different jurisdictions. Thanks for proving my point.
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        • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday September 28 2019, @01:30AM (1 child)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday September 28 2019, @01:30AM (#899764) Journal
          And yet each jurisdiction has a legal definition so it's not hard to define. Just look it up for your jurisdiction. It's the same as speed limits- different jurisdictions have different definitions of what the limits are set at, but they're not hard to define.
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          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday September 29 2019, @10:45AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Sunday September 29 2019, @10:45AM (#900256) Homepage
            Do you really unable to tell the difference between an abstract concept and a concrete instantiation of that concept?

            Don't bother responding, as I know in advance you have absolutely nothing of value to say, but go off and ponder whether the colour "orange" is easy to define. After all, crayola managed, pantone managed, and the W3C have also managed it. OK, their definitions differ from each other, but why should little things like disagreement stand in the way of "definition".
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