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For a long time now I've been for increased legal immigration and ease of legal immigration and just as strongly against illegal immigration. So you can see how I would be pretty big on border patrol being relatively heavy handed. That ended this afternoon.
I'm still just as strongly against illegal immigration but the border patrol being too aggressive is infringing on one of the most fundamental rights of the Mexican folks. Which is to say, catching the bigass flathead catfish that live in the Rio Grande. There's a lot of things I'm willing to allow for a solid border and rule of law but fucking with the pursuit of huge, delicious flathead is not among them. I'm going to have to revisit my views on river policy.
For them of you what ain't aware, most catfish over five pounds start getting unfortunate amounts of yellow, fatty meat that is other than the light, flaky, delicious meat that you expect to enjoy when experienced on a dinner plate. Now you can cut it out but that always seems wasteful, which is part of why a lot of catfish folks throw back anything over a certain size. Flatheads taste better than blues and channels (what you eat if you order catfish at a restaurant) to start with because they eat live bait almost exclusively and hardly have the yellow fat issue at all; if you catch an eighty pound flathead, you can expect to enjoy every bit of meat on it. They're also the most challenging to catch of the catfish in the US.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 18 2019, @11:33PM (4 children)
I thought that would come to fish somehow, but from a different angle. Some of the best fishing spots on the Rio and surrounding wetlands would be on the other side of the U.S. wall, due to structural issues. That means that a U.S. citizen would have to go through a U.S. port of entry or other approved entrance, go fishing in the No Man's land, and then get inspected upon reentry. You thought that getting hassled by the TPWD and USFWS were bad enough, but now the Border Patrol and ICE get to do it too.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Sulla on Thursday September 19 2019, @01:29AM (3 children)
Screw those people. Mexico is a soverign country and non-Mexicans have no right to steal those fish.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @01:41AM (1 child)
The wall would be on US soil, the river is the boundary belonging essentially to both/neither. In other words anywhere it was would require a boat to fish.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:21PM
No, there is very much a boundary line. It might be hard to distinguish in a river, but if you ever go out onto Lake Superior you can bet your ass there are Canadians and Indians waiting to arrest you for trespassing over their borders.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:03AM
I love how at least two people thought this was a good comeback (poster and moderator). I am talking about U.S. land because they can't build a wall down the middle of the river or in most of the wetlands. Therefore, there would be strip of U.S. and Texas land between said wall and the real border, which means you would have to cross said wall to reach it. And, crossing said wall would require reinspection by Border Patrol at a port of entry or ICE because I highly doubt they will have the entries located anywhere other than at openings in said wall. Or I guess they could just put other openings, as required by usage needs, without inspection points, like they did in the We Build the Wall "wall" but that kind of defeats the purpose of a wall in the first place.
Or I guess you could be suggesting that we will be giving Mexico the land between the wall and the border.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @12:05AM (16 children)
If those in power will ignore the rights of someone you don't like now, they will ignore your rights eventually.
Interesting that a fishing pole bends the pin on your "human" detector. Am I a human when I take a shower?
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @01:12AM (14 children)
See, the problem with your thinking is Mexicans do not in fact have the right to be over here unless they follow our laws to enter.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:07PM (13 children)
I always wondered why migrating humans have less rights than migrating animals.
We have borders to separate the whites from the coloreds.
And capitalism cannot function without enforced economic stratification.
Walls are for imprisonment.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:24PM (12 children)
Race has nothing to do with it. We have borders to separate one tribe from another, the same way you have a fence around your yard or locks on the doors on your house. What's yours is not mine to do with as I please and national borders are simply a way of expressing the same fundamental right on a larger scale.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:48PM (11 children)
We have borders to separate one tribe from another
Yes, exactly...
the same way you have a fence around your yard or locks on the doors on your house.
Not even close. A fortified dwelling is to keep out poisonous insects, and maybe the marauding river trout. It's about keeping out everybody. Nobody has any real right to occupy and block passage through miles of territory. The passage from Mexico to Canada is completely blocked. Outrageous! You have the right to wake up in the morning and find your stuff where you left it. Freedom of movement is essential. I wish it were inviolable, but all that weaponry... oh well, too bad we can't make all their guns backfire. Might makes right, as usual. The power of reason is squandered in justifying it.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:38PM (10 children)
Tell you what, how about EF comes over and does whatever the hell he likes at your house? If you don't believe it for a family-sized tribe, you're full of shit trying to say you believe it for a nation-sized tribe. And you know you are, which is why you're getting so angry.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:49PM (9 children)
Sorry, that bullshit doesn't scale. A private dwelling is nothing like national territory used to imprison humans. You have nothing but the power of mass weaponry to back you up. Borders are no different than Jim Crow. Discrimination based on place of birth is just as evil as that based on skin color and gender. This is one planet, and all humans are entitled to come and go as they please, just like the caribou and the butterfly
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:03PM (8 children)
Yes, it does. One quarter of an acre or a hundred million makes no difference. And no, it's not used to imprison anyone in capitalist nations. It's used to say "This is ours. Ask before you enter or fuck off." You already know and understand this but don't want admit to yourself that you've been so utterly wrong, so you double down emotionally.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:17PM (3 children)
One quarter of an acre or a hundred million makes no difference.
Sorry, it does. You take your property by force. Only by force can you claim exclusivity to natural resources. You will lose them the same way. You are only entitled to whatever you produce or extract from that property.
By the way, you're projecting on the emotional silliness. Just thought I'd let you know since you seem to be unaware. :-)
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday September 20 2019, @01:48AM (2 children)
No, civilized people (and even most uncivilized ones) acquire property via voluntary contract and retain it via social agreement to respect the property rights of others in exchange for your own being respected. Since pretty much the entire world works this way, saying silly bullshit like "you can't own land" with a straight face is only going to have people looking at you like you ride the short bus.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @02:10AM (1 child)
So you don't really own anything then, unless your neighbors agree? A bit communist, but ok, I can accept that.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday September 20 2019, @02:42AM
You thought ownership had an independent existence outside social contract? Huh...
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @08:21PM (3 children)
Oh, and if you have any respect at all for peoples' property, you will return the North American Continent to its previous inhabitants.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday September 20 2019, @01:43AM (2 children)
Make a cemetary of it then? Everyone it was taken from is long dead.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @02:06AM (1 child)
Ah, cool. Then I can just take over and hold out for a few generations and it's all mine... MINE!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday September 20 2019, @02:44AM
Could always just get hit by a bus. Dead people aren't too picky about sharing their space with other dead folks. They're the least bitchy people I know.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:36AM
You could learn something from that, if you're not careful!
(Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 19 2019, @12:46AM (10 children)
We need to distinguish between US catfish and Mexican catfish. Those fish should have papers on them, so the border patrol can tell whether you have domestic or foreign fish in your possession.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @01:12AM
What about dreamer fish that Mexican parents laid so that they would grow up in the US?
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @01:12AM (8 children)
Who cares, they're getting the death penalty anyway.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday September 19 2019, @02:25AM (7 children)
....drowned in butter.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 5, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:30AM (6 children)
Cornmeal and your spices of choice. Throw in a pan of 350F oil until the fillet floats. It's catfish, man, there are rules.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:18PM (5 children)
Have you ever tried beer batter?
Preferred method of coating fish in my family. :)
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:31PM (4 children)
Yep. It's all fine and good for fish what aren't catfish but breading catfish in anything but cornmeal would be like putting brown gravy instead of white on a chicken fried steak.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:43PM (3 children)
I was going to reply that I like brown gravy on chicken, but then I thought "what the hell is a chicken fried steak? So i used DDG.
And then you put "white gravy???" on it.
You guys are weird.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:50PM (2 children)
Don't knock it until you've tried it. It's a seriously beloved dish down here for good reason. Do not, and let me stress this, go to the supermarket and pick up a package of frozen ones to judge by though. They're a dish that's apparently unable to be mass produced without rendering it into an absolute mockery of the actual handmade dish.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday September 19 2019, @04:10PM (1 child)
DDG led me astray. The first result I got just said a piece of beef fried as if it was a piece of chicken.
Further investigation and it looks a lot like a veal schnitzel. To be clear since that term apparently varies by country this type https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/veal-schnitzel-recipe-2013642 [foodnetwork.com]
Still not sure about the white gravy though. Putting milk or cream in gravy seems, odd. Might try it one day.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @05:18PM
It's generally round steak that's been mechanically tenderized to within an inch of its life (called cube steak around here) rather than veal. White gravy takes a little practice to get right but I had a grandmother who was a ninth-degree blackbelt in southern cooking to teach me, so I never had to deal with lumpy screw-ups after the first time or two. The main things you have to get a feel for are the temperature of the oil/browned flour mixture and how quickly you add the milk. Salt should be added until just short of tasting bad; white gravy should never taste sweet. Black pepper to whatever your palate declares is proper. There are those who will add sausage as well but they are misguided and should be pitied. As for oil, do not be lead astray by the heathens who post recipes using any lipid aside from bacon grease, for they are the servants of the evil one.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 19 2019, @02:00AM (3 children)
Yuck!
And the book says to stay away from shellfish too...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:28AM (2 children)
Flatheads will eat freshly dead bait fish but only if it's of a type they're currently feeding on. They're extremely odd for US catfish.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Thursday September 19 2019, @04:20AM (1 child)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @12:12PM
Nope, still a catfish.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday September 19 2019, @04:19AM (3 children)
Dealing with border patrol is a careful dance. The individual agents I have no problem with. I'd like to make their day easier, in fact.
But their instructions to disregard the Constitution make dangerous confrontations far too likely. So far I've had pretty good luck with just telling them that I am a US National moving in my own country and I don't intend to answer any questions. On several occasions they clearly got it, I've gotten several big winks back, and waves to get on out of the line. I've also had agents visibly confused and insulted, unfortunately.
I really don't think it's legitimate for the state to take my tax money to pay agents that are not familiar with the US Constitution and the notions of human rights from which it is derived, to carry weapons and stop me on the highway. Granted illegal immigration is a problem - I don't think it justifies the responses I see.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @12:29PM (2 children)
Personally, I'd prefer the border be tight enough that nobody inside the border ever had to be annoyed by immigration/border nonsense. I don't see it happening any time soon though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:09AM (1 child)
The implication is that it's simply impossible for the state to respect my rights, because the state has made a mess of immigration policy and virtually everything related.
No. Their failure does not erode my rights. What a great job! Any time you mess up you get more power?
That's insanity.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 24 2019, @12:19PM
That wasn't meant to be implied.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:18AM (1 child)
You know, TMB, there are catfish beyond your imagination? One is the Wels, the Danube River Cat [wikipedia.org], also known to exist in other European drainages, and rumored to eat children. Then there is the Mekong Catfish, known to eat children. So if you are against immigration, it should be against these catfish, since they are large enough to eat you, instead of your eating them. [wikipedia.org]
Not that they would be illegal. And no human can be "illegal", unless they code wrong, or are a racist misogynist bastard who cannot abide people who dye their hair non-natural colours.
So, In the Pleistocene, not just the Megalodon (big tooth, for you non-greek speakers), but the Megalosuck! 7-meter catfish! You can only dream! Or have nightmares of! Careful for which you fish. They may not always be alt-right.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @12:25PM
Oh I'm familiar with the larger than US catfish species very wels. I just haven't decided if it's worth suffering through international travel to go catch a two hundred pound catfish yet.
As for easter egg hair colors, I used to have quite a thing for chicks with enough lack of give-a-shit to sport them back when they were also likely to be styled in a mohawk or something otherwise funky. Then it became not just trendy but damned near a uniform for spoiled little college bitches and ruined it for me entirely. The previous group tended to actually be strong women instead of just talking about how strong they were while being horrible cunts to everyone to prove it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:13PM (5 children)
All they give us is stupidity and hatred.
The idiots will be happy to have their wall, and the sane people left down there will get out.
But how will they get over the wall? Maybe they'll use ladders. But then, they've got this big ladder and now they're stuck way up high. How would they get down? Maybe a rope.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @03:27PM (4 children)
Hate to burst your bubble but you'll find a whole lot more racism up north. Spend some time in Atlanta or Memphis and then in Detroit or Chicago. I have and the racism levels weren't even of the same order of magnitude. Hell, growing up where most of us are, it had never even occurred to me that someone might be racist against Indians until I went north of Nebraska; then it became as common as air.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:31PM (2 children)
This is the truth. The south actually integrated after reconstruction - not perfectly, but still a damn sight better than anywhere in the north. The north is far, far, more segregated, and kids outside of more diverse urban centers are just ripe to be plucked because they've never seen a non-white person in real life and will readily believe racist bullshit.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 19 2019, @07:42PM (1 child)
Urban centers are less diverse than rural areas in my experience. Even placing money entirely aside, people self-segregate more in large cities than they do out in the sticks. I have no idea why.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @12:03AM
Because there's no point to segregation when you can't see or hear your neighbors until you go into town and choose to interact with them?
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @06:18AM
Woooooooosh
It is ok bird brain, you'll develop a sense of humor once you let go of all that cognitive dissonance. Don't worry, I believe your claim that there is plenty of racism outside the South. Sorry for that shock, hope your heart is holding up ok.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:59PM (1 child)
https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/8xwm54/number-theorist-fears-all-published-math-is-wrong-actually [vice.com]
Equally over-inflated ego! At least the brit has schooling, but that only lets him access even higher levels of stupid that make him stand out. At least you're stuck with PERL which no one really cares about.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 30 2019, @01:41PM
I generally teach myself a new language, either programming or spoken, every year or three, so I'm hardly limited to writing my bugs in perl. And schooling just means you're unable to learn something well enough on your own to teach yourself from readily available resources.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.