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posted by janrinok on Thursday September 19 2019, @04:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-is-it? dept.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xw83b/the-navy-says-the-ufos-in-tom-delonges-videos-are-unidentified-aerial-phenomena

In official statements, the US Navy has for the first time officially stated that the three UFO videos made public by former Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge's UFO research organization are footage of real "unknown" objects violating American airspace.

Navy spokesperson Joseph Gradisher told Motherboard that "the Navy considers the phenomena contained/depicted in those 3 videos as unidentified." Previously, the Navy never addressed the content of the videos. The terminology here is important: The UFO community is increasingly using the terminology "unidentified aerial phenomena" to discuss unknown objects in the sky.

John Greenwald, author and curator of The Black Vault, the largest civilian archive of declassified government documents, originally reported the news. Greenwald requested information in August from the Navy regarding the content of the three popular videos purporting to show anomalous aerial objects.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3zq/tom-delonge-nytimes-ufo-aliens-comparison


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday September 20 2019, @07:19AM (3 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday September 20 2019, @07:19AM (#896424) Journal

    I have 0 trust in the united states navy to tell the truth and I am completely suspicious about the timing of these 'well yup ufo's are real' press releases.

    If the public couldn't handle this in 1950 why would we be able to handle it now? I'd say everything is less stable, more confusing, more sick and full of despair.

    If you see it from the perspective of powerful institutions, at this point in time, this entire debate distracts from 100 other obvious actual conspiracies that can be proven, but which if actually allowed to be discussed would radically alter the powerful institutions.

    Think about it, do you reaslly think this storm area 51 circus started around the time it was clear epstein was going to become a mainstream scandal?

    The united states military can now directly and indirectly propagandize the civliian population in any way it wants, until that changes there will be no way to actually know anything. Video footage of actual live aliens could be easily faked at this point. The men in black piloted humans or g'aold scenario from sg-1 are possibilities, but remotely you won't be able to trust your eyes and should you discover one yourself, you as an individual will have no means of overcoming the counterpropaganda.

    From the perspective of the individual human, we are trapped here in a world we cannot even possibly understand and if we did it would only put us in danger.

    This would be a good time to read 'Behold a Pale Horse' and wonder if the entire narrative with forestal and majestic were elaborate fictions. To me at this point that seems difficult to make up, and now that we know oswald was cia and wtc7 was pre rigged for demolition, and hell Trump is president, so I have truly, truly no trust in the official version of anything. Mr. Cooper said that already by the 1980's there were underground drills that could clear arena's of open space 3 miles underground, daily. With an unlimited budget, there could actually be thousands of actual aliens posting on the internet.

    As for the tidbits that are left out for us, I suspect they have so much power and we are so far removed from it, I suspect this is the type of operation where they just want to 'see what we'll do' (see josh brolin's line in the utterly shit propaganda movie sicario 2)

    What is however clear from what 'they' are doing, how power is exercised, is that a very, very, very small number of people are trying to establish a way to exert power over billions of individual humans.

    And they would not be doing that without a very, very good reason.

    thesesystemsarefailing.net

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  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday September 20 2019, @07:21AM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday September 20 2019, @07:21AM (#896425) Journal

    also, the entire blink 182 connection is textbook mkultra type useful idiot stuff, it glows in the dark to high heaven.

    'the government' does not contact lead singers in bands for help with ufos.

    roflmao

  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday September 20 2019, @08:25AM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday September 20 2019, @08:25AM (#896428) Journal

    also, kindof ashamed this is an afterthought but...

    Other things that can be deduced about who or whatever is centralizing power and ruining the personal computer and internet, if not everything:

    -contempt for human rights, hatred of magna carta and un declaration
    -contempt and scorn for empathy, indifference to human suffering
    -no concern whatsoever about making planet uninhabitable to humans
    -lets israel get away with everything and america get away with everything if it benefits israel, (ie epstein, bombing other countries, soldiers assassinating protestors in broad daylight, unlimited undeclared nukes, no declared borders, spies allowed to operate in every country, eternal victimhood)
    -zeal for the destruction of non conforming countries like iran, venezuela, libya and syria
    -vast private fortunes and the means for wealth to move internationally without legal oversight
    -endemic surveillance, undercover spies literally everywhere in vast numbers
    -moving technological development, banking, communications to within israeli borders as fast as possible
    -extremely sophisticated psychological manipulation of large populations through use of mass media, as if this practice has been refined on this scale for thousands of years, even though the technology is supposed to be new

    Yeah, so what kindof organization fits that bill?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:13AM (#896778)

    If the public couldn't handle this in 1950 why would we be able to handle it now? I'd say everything is less stable, more confusing, more sick and full of despair.

    Exactly. In the 1950s, everything spouted by the military would have been taken as gospel, so the government had to be very careful what to say. But now, we're all inundated with unverifiable stories anyway, and this navy "admission" is a mere blip on the radar. Nothing will come of it, so the government doesn't need to be careful anymore.