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posted by martyb on Tuesday September 24 2019, @01:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the Watergate-or-TeapotTempest dept.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181

(Note: emphasis in original.)

Why is this important?

Mr Trump's most ardent critics accuse him of using the powers of the presidency to bully Ukraine into digging up damaging information on a political rival, Democrat Joe Biden.

Meanwhile, Mr Trump and his supporters the former vice-president abused his power to pressure Ukraine to back away from a criminal investigation that could implicate his son, Hunter.

Mr Biden is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination to take on Mr Trump next year.

In other words, it is nothing less than the White House at stake.

[...] What happened to the whistleblower's complaint?

After receiving the [whistleblower] complaint, the inspector general informed Joseph Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence, and said the matter was "urgent". The intelligence community whistleblower law says the director has seven days to pass the complaint along to congressional intelligence committees.

That didn't happen.

Instead, Mr Maguire spoke to a lawyer who told him the issue was not "urgent", at least according to legal standards, according to [T]he New York Times.

As a result, Mr Maguire decided that the members of the congressional oversight committees did not need to see it.

On 9 September, the inspector general informed Congress about the complaint's existence, but not the details. Democrats in Congress have since clamoured for more information - including a transcript of Mr Trump's call - but the administration has refused to co-operate.

And that's where things currently stand.

[...] Did Mr Trump commit an impeachable offence?

The constitutional process for handling a president who committed illegal and-or unethical acts is impeachment by a majority of the House of Representatives and conviction and removal by a two-thirds majority of the US Senate.

The US constitution outlines the grounds for impeachment as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors". When it comes down to it, an "impeachable offense" is whatever a majority of the House says it is.

Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Letters to Congressional Intelligence Committees


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:48AM (3 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:48AM (#898035) Journal

    Interesting points, but voting for a fascist is always a bad idea. If both sides are so corrupt you can't hold your nose and vote, that is legitimate.

    Why can't both sides be corrupt? Biden has a huge history of corruption and ruining the country, voting to get rid of glass steagal, voting for the 911 wars, I can't stand him and have never been able to. His even thinking he has leadership qualities outside of his looks is a real delusion.

    Trump also believes his own lies, or rather I think believes nothing. I can't relate to him in any way, his mind is twisted and it shows, he can't complete sentences, he is incoherent unless he is reading from a script, just like Bush.

    It's better to have a thousand sheep led by a wolf, than a thousand wolves led by sheep. The situation is bad, history books from the future would read pretty logically if this were the downfall of the entire country.

    The founding fathers(sic) warned about 'entangling foreign alliances' and this is why, no one can get the facts straight 5000 miles away, full stop. The functioning of government should not be hinging on the word of a spy, that's not how any of this works.

    Biden's connections to Ukraine and Trumps cajoling of a foreign leader to dig up things that will hurt him are BOTH conspiracies, they are BOTH crimes, they are BOTH covert actions we could not understand without either our own spy agencies or direct access to the data.

    Like Biden, Mueller has a huge history of coverups and they look tied to israel. As soon as Trump moved the Jerusalem Embassy and said Israel can have a bunch of land it wanted for 50 years, scandal went away. Israel wants 4 more years and they are going to use every trick in the book to get this, becasue they don't care if america burns so long as they get more land. That's who we are dealing with and that is why Flint can't get water, a foreign country controls the american government primarily for their purposes.

    The evidence that Trump is not just connected to the Russian and Jewish mafias, but in them, and not even as a boss, is mountaintous. Roy Cohn, the money laundering property sales, his pal epstein, the situation is bad. It's on the surface, it's treason, either the constitution goes or trump goes. You have to take your pick, and that is a bigger question than Biden.

    You will also notice how this gives Biden a bunch of publicity on the same day he actually stopped being the front runner to warren, so from a media manipulation standpoint, this is actually going to help Biden, the perceived victim, and obviously the candidate that Trump and co would prefer because he is not intelligent and maybe more of a buffoon than trump. He would lose horrrribly, most democrats hate him and rightfully so.

    Moral of the story, a country cannot be run by spies, cults and mafias or the country is just food for same. Any time you hear 17 'intelligence' agencies agree with 'curveball' or some such, you should grab your wallet and watch your ass.

    And please help me change the definition of intelligence back to how it was. I'd like to write a browser plugin that rewrites the page every time the word spy is replaced with intelligence, this is the primary key of their tactic.

    17 spies and another spy say Sadasam Hussein is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER ABOUT TO KILL YOU

    No one woulld believe that and it sounds stupid. We have to strike at the roots of how these people maintain their dominance and are turning our government into a mob that might get us all killed, and this is one of their key tactics. They want to make everything just rumor, no one has any facts, and sway the entire country based on pure wind.

    I hope this sheds some light. The entire concept of having a civilian society and civilian government is being attacked, and it may be too late.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @12:57PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @12:57PM (#898082)

    Facist? So he’s rounding up all his political opponents and centralizing power? What? He’s cutting regulations and not arresting anyone, but we have a staffer who heard this rumor near the water cooler? Huh. You must be in your own reality...

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday September 24 2019, @05:35PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday September 24 2019, @05:35PM (#898221) Journal

      You're right, he's not arresting people. He's locking them up in concentration camps along the border while ignoring silly little due process things like arresting and charging them first.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:31PM (#898293)

      Yes, that is precisely what this article is about!!!

      Sweet jesus your brains just switch right off when it comes to Trump huh?